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Drew51
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Post 2006-10-06 06:59   [Quote] 
OK, any corrections welcome. I need to get this out now, very little bandwidth at this time, more by tomorrow, sorry about that! Leaving town, cleaning house, finishing work...using bandwidth while I can.

Frank Zappa
Palace of Fine Arts, Lecture at The Exploratorium SF, CA
Speaking Of Music Series with guest Frank Zappa
May 20th 1984
main Source: KPFA/KPFB Berkeley FM. Broadcast on August 5th 1984
First Generation cassette tape.
Lineage: TDK SA90 Cassettes>Gina20>Sound Forge (record/edits)>CDWave>
Shntool (SBE check)>FLAC Level 8
Taped by: RC
Transfer and edit: Drew

fill lineage: (for both the FM and audience fills)
Lineage: FM or AUD > ? > cass(maxell XLII90)/? > A/D nakamichi/UA-5 USB >
wav Audition 1.5 (tracked only) > shntool > flac frontend
(lvl 7 / ... MB FLAC)>WAV
Taped by: N/A
Transfered & raw edit by: walk

Set list:
1) SOM intros
2) FZ Intro and Q&A session
3) Lumpy Gravy (excerpts)
4) Mo'n Herbs Vacation (excerpts)
5) Love Story
6) Naval Aviation In Art?
7) The Girl In The Magnesium Dress
8) Jonestown
9) Q&A Session
10) While You Were Out
11) The story behind While You Were Art
12) While You Were Art (unreleased)
13) He's So Gay (includes intro) (With Puppet Dance by Scott Smitherum-see photo)
14) Q&A Session
15) Francesco Zappa - Opus 1, 2nd Movement Presto
16) Francesco Zappa - Opus 1, 2nd Movement Minuet
17) "The Almost Fictional Life Of Francesco Zappa" (read by Calvin Ahlgren)
18) String Trio - Opus 1, 2nd Movement

Notes: Most of the above was unpublished at the time of the lecture.
It is stated the date of this event was July 20th, but that must be wrong.
The Zappa band was playing LA on that date.
Thanks to Walk and Flambay for fills, and pitch check.
Thanks to David Windt for the photos (included).
Thanks to Bengofury for set list/background info
editing notes: A few large dropouts.
Dropouts corrected as best I could, not perfect. FM hiss, and artifacts
present. Some removed. No Noise Reduction to main source.
The start (only) of 3rd side (track 17) is poor, with two fills and was
Eq'ed/NR'ed to more closely sound like the rest of show.
Fills in track one (FM) track 9 (FM) and track 17 (FM and AUD.)
Sorry I refuse to bore you with exact details, i don't even remember.
It's the ZRP version, feel free to make your own.
Please purchase FZ CD's from www.zappa.com
You should not keep this if you don't own all the examples.
It's OK to keep back ups so please purchase what your missing.
Kept intact for historic reasons. A must to understand references FZ makes.

2006-10-06 - Drew ZRP Archives

Fingerprint info:

840520-SF - 18 String Trio Opus One.flac:75eb0d780f0a6cea50b56c52ec3eb59f
840520-SF - 01 SOM intros.flac:ea1706e60ec692158f31173a4adddde6
840520-SF - 02 Q-A Session.flac:c2310fc421b3c7fe52fed2b67e62f610
840520-SF - 03 Lumpy Gravy.flac:45d5c3bed9fafb431462040621fad4ce
840520-SF - 04 Moe N Herbs Vacation.flac:9f9b2dd160099314d29c9a966d1f7638
840520-SF - 05 Love Story.flac:de22c5d744aa1ea91de36276cb8a4e01
840520-SF - 06 Naval Aviation In Art.flac:5841e80536667a96fef13341fd722114
840520-SF - 07 The Girl In The Magnesium Dress.flac:f1434e54b880887e505e304919ae095b
840520-SF - 08 Jonestown.flac:cfee19924d6b2d861732f845f820873f
840520-SF - 09 Q-A Session.flac:64f29865c95c6ead0838fcc90da34ce3
840520-SF - 10 While You Were Out.flac:2b4b17f92bf65bcb5cbf75c090b3371f
840520-SF - 11 The Story Behind.flac:1c228e474b448cde9ccdce7a0a8bcb01
840520-SF - 12 While You Were Art.flac:f0a8fd6543f283b4b213c3391cdd6c78
840520-SF - 13 He's So Gay.flac:01c4f83719f874eaaa7fa153c8f1cee8
840520-SF - 14 Q-A Session.flac:b0a4b02e00383c6a028b250fedc6e026
840520-SF - 15 Opus One Presto.flac:78ecb4eb572383f7279744ce86b6687b
840520-SF - 16 Opus One Minuet.flac:a671e2fc6d14e65c7c8126cb52e23587
840520-SF - 17 Francesco Story.flac:9b6c306cd3c90a7eb7ebc3c4a9c52be2
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Post 2006-10-06 08:05   [Quote] 
Nice one Drew! Thank you so much for the upgrade.

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Post 2006-10-06 08:41   [Quote] 
This photo is in the torrent, must be the puppet used for the "He's So Gay" ditty.
Now that must have been funny! In one of the photos you see a cameraman...this was filmed!! hmm now that I think about it, a small segment of the Francesco reading is on Video From Hell, or one of those VHS releases.
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Post 2006-10-06 10:36   [Quote] 
indeed, thx a lot drew. i look forward to listen to francesco again Smile
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Post 2006-10-06 10:51   [Quote] 
Merci Choukrane Thanks dancingnaughty Drew51
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Post 2006-10-06 11:29   [Quote] 
Thanks drew! Never heard this one before! Looking forward! thumbsup
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Post 2006-10-06 15:42   [Quote] 
I always forget about audio discs when doing these projects. i always do them as one big thing, as it should. But it would be nice if I thought about this. I would have moved track markers a bit.
Anyway the best split I have found is
tracks 1-12 Disc one
tracks 13-`18 Disc two

NO SBE's, enjoy.
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Post 2006-10-06 15:51   [Quote] 
Thank you verry much drew
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Post 2006-10-06 16:09   [Quote] 
Drew, thanks a lot for this one.

drew51 wrote:
I always forget about audio discs when doing these projects. i always do them as one big thing, as it should. But it would be nice if I thought about this. I would have moved track markers a bit.
Anyway the best split I have found is
tracks 1-12 Disc one
tracks 13-`18 Disc two

NO SBE's, enjoy.


IMO there's no need to think of possible audio discs, those who wan't to burn stuff may split tracks whatever they like, the important thing is that the original files are being kept, and that those are the ones being traded or forwarded, not copied audio CDR's.
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Post 2006-10-06 19:00   [Quote] 
Nice one Drew and answered a dilemma I have here, whether it's correct to torrent the actual pieces or not.

Can see it is so for those that can read/speak german, there will be one tomorrow.

Just hope it's nothing rude as I don't speak german.......lolol.

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Post 2006-10-06 20:00   [Quote] 
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Nice one Drew and answered a dilemma I have here, whether it's correct to torrent the actual pieces or not.


I think we have to approach it as individual cases. W/o them, this lecture makes no sense.
Another example is why have a bogus DJ show posted if we can't include all the music? Now if you have a collection of demos and two are now released, they should be removed from the collection. Or an exact copy of a commercial product. Recently we had a demo of Johhny Franklin, and realized it was released, and it was removed as it should be. I say just own it.
I have the vinyl Thingfish, Francesco, and the CD versions. I have the first two masters boxes with the mystery discs. I have the lumpy gravy CD, both or all three versions etc...
Having this on CDR can be considered a backup and legal. If you don't own this music, one listen and delete, or buy the product, just one example of each is fine. We want to do all we can to support the ZFT IMHO. Certainly don't want to bite the hand that feeds us.
That's BS if you cheat, you cheat us all. Own it man!


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Post 2006-10-06 20:09   [Quote] 
MrUMRK wrote:
Nice one Drew and answered a dilemma I have here, whether it's correct to torrent the actual pieces or not.

Can see it is so for those that can read/speak german, there will be one tomorrow.

Just hope it's nothing rude as I don't speak german.......lolol.


Our policies have been clearly explained a lot of times, and even if Drew is a well respected seeder he's not really the one to ask... We do have a number of admins around, if in doubt, ask any of them!
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Post 2006-10-06 20:31   [Quote] 
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he's not really the one to ask


Yes, not my call, but I can still give an opinion. These guys have been pretty good, though I bitched like hell about the ZPZ call! Hey you have to take the good with the bad!! No me, not this place!! Smile This is a good place, no bad, no boogies here...
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Post 2006-10-06 20:38   [Quote] 
drew51 wrote:
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he's not really the one to ask


Yes, not my call, but I can still give an opinion. These guys have been pretty good, though I bitched like hell about the ZPZ call! Hey you have to take the good with the bad!! No me, not this place!! Smile This is a good place, no bad, no boogies here...


Exactly Wink
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Post 2006-10-06 23:05   [Quote] 
Thanks drew! This looks really intresting, looking forward to hearing it!!
Like yer avatar too! Very Happy
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