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Kristoftof
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Post 2006-09-27 11:04   [Quote] 
Just for comparaison, some samples:
But my version is a 2nd or 3rd gen CD, see this topic: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4644

(And i don't keep the first samples!!!! so i redo them)


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Original text file:

Frank Zappa
Warrensville Heights Music Festival, OH
10-Aug 1969

Available Recordings, concerning JN:
55 min, Stage?, B+

Source: 54 min, B+/B
Lineage: Stage?>?>tape>wav CEP (tracked, slightly noisereduced)>CDR & flac
Taped by: N/A
Transfered by: walk
Edited by: walk
File Size: 326 MB (FLAC)

The MOI:
Jimmy Carl Black - drums, vocals
Ray Collins - vocals (640801-680803 (680915))
Roy Estrada - bass, vocals
Bunk Gardner - woodwinds (late 66-6908)
Buzz Gardner - trumpet (late 66-6908)
Euclid James Sherwood (Motorhead) - baritone saxophone
Arthur Dyer Tripp III - drums
Ian Underwood - woodwinds, keyboards (summer 1967-8/69)
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals

Setlist:
01 Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(sample (as last try)
02 Some Ballet Music
03 Right There --------------------------------------------------------------(sample (as last try)
04 FZ explains program music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------( cut at the end ?????)
05 String Quartet --------------------------------------------------------------------(sample end track04 + as last try)
06 Jam ---------------------------------------------------(cut at 20:45) + ( cut at the end ?????) -------------------------(2 samples)
07 In The Sky tapflip (sourcechange?) @ 0:41.321 (44:34.422) ----------------------------------(sample tf)
08 Jam (incl. Chunga's Revenge chords) ----------------------------------(cut at the beginning ??????) (2samples)

Notes:
source: http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/60s.htm

** Terminology for the 1960s concerts:
"Jam" = some kind of improvisation, not within another song.
"Instrumental" = composed but unidentified instrumental.
"String Quartet" = Pound For A Brown + Sleeping In A Jar + jam


First Time played:
drum solo ( )
FZ explains program music ( )

Last Time played:
Some Ballet Music (FZ )
Right There (Roy Estrada & FZ )
FZ explains program music ( )
The String Quartet (FZ )
In The Sky (FZ )

abbreviations:
[ = cut at the end
] = cut at the beginning
~ = fading in/out or connects two or more tracks played like one (medley)
-IC = incomplete
& = added from dif source
= walk's notes


credits:
thanks to M for the tapes


this happens to be #zappateers session #125 pt2
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The samples "690810 Warrensville-06a Jam (with cut)" and "690810 Warrensville-08 Jam (end)" are nearly the same place as MrUMRK samples
The MrUMRK version begin nearly at 39:00 of this version, and ending the same


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Post 2006-09-27 11:29   [Quote] 
excellent kristoftof.

This show was indeed the one I compared to here...aka the samples I put up.

Will be interested to see what the jury has to say....in my case I do not have the complete show,
unfortunately, but may help.

thanks again

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Post 2006-09-27 11:43   [Quote] 
MrUMRK

Perhaps you don't get the same cuts, it would be great !!!
for exemple, just after your first sample ??? (in walk version there's a cut just some seconds after the part of "06 jam" which is like your first sample )

And in these samples i show all the cuts (or ??? possible cut ??,) you can find in.

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Post 2006-09-28 17:10   [Quote] 
Not sure if this is a cut in sample 06 ... could also be an overlap. We won't know until we hear the full thing.

Speed suggestions:

walk-Kristoftof samples: -30cts for samples 04 to 06 before cut; OK from 06 after cut to end.
(Obviously not sure about 01 Drum Solo and 03 Right There ... hmm )

MrUMRK: -50cts

Personnally I prefer the sound of walk's version.
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Post 2007-02-26 04:03   [Quote] 
I checked my copies and they sound a lot like Walk's version, though i think his is slightly better. So I'm not going to sample them out, not competitive.
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Post 2007-07-14 16:29   [Quote] 
So !!!!!

This one is very old, and perhaps my copy is not so bad (i don't detect any numerical problem)

Just one word and i seed it (with sc)

And without word, i seed it in two days !!!
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