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03. 1970 / 1971 - MOI with Flo & Eddie  
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1970 / 1971 - MOI with Flo & Eddie

Full info about band and repertoire at POMD - Complete setlists at FZShows

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1970 with George Duke : June - December

For this tour are known 20 unofficially taped shows (incl. 8 Sbd/FM/Stage)

Official live recordings:
- Road Tapes, Venue #3, two full shows from Minneapolis, MN, July 5, 1970;
- one track on Chunga's Revenge;
- the anthropological field recordings on Playground Psychotics include a short live fragment of Call Any Vegetables;
- YCDTOSA6 has a stage lecture;
- all of Freaks And Motherfu----- and Tengo Na Minchia Tanta BTBs come from the mid November NYC shows;
- Disconnected Synapses BTB is from the December Paris show,
- two tracks of At The Circus BTB are from a June TV recording in Uddel.
- at concert vault there are available for streaming a 63min recording of one of the 1970 11 05 shows (only availavle there) and a 63min recording of one of the 1970 11 06 shows (the same available on the tracker).

Videos:
- from San Francisco are also available a few songs as video in The True Story Of 200 Motels Honker home video;
- more material from San Francisco is present in the original 1971 VPRO documentary Frank Zappa (aka A Day With Frank).
- the December Paris show was pro-shot but never surfaced entirely, some of it can be viewed on a Swedish tv program called Spotlight, more video material from this show has recently surfaced and can be buyed at www.ina.fr.

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1970 06 12 San Antonio, TX - Aud 50min C
• on the tracker : 1970 06 12 San Antonio 49.54 4th gen Aud (Yojimbo) seeded 2007-01-12

1970 06 18 Uddel, Netherlands - SBD and FM 50min A Smile from a Dutch live TV show called Piknik, rebroadcasted on radio many times, exact date and place of the performance is debated
• on the tracker : 1970 06 18 Uddel NL, VPRO "Piknik" 49.30 Pre-FM MC (Y-flambay) seeded 2007-04-04
• in the shoebox : 1970 06 18 - VPRO TV, Uddel, Netherlands rebroadcast low gen (RobSam doctorzap) seeded 2011-09-10
two songs are available in the At The Circus BTB - the video of the tv program has never surfaced
- boot on the tracker : VPRO Piknik Picnic cd-r 1970 06 18 Uddel, Netherlands FM 40.19 (taurus)
- archived : 1970 06 18 Uddel NL, VPRO "Piknik" 45.22 SBD MC (Y-flambay)-ic
- before zappateers : 40min version by johnnyboops


1970 06 28 Bath, UK - Aud 75min B/B- Smile
• two different recordings on the tracker :
          * 1970 06 28 Bath Festival UK 77.06 AUD 2nd (Coops2009-flambay) seeded 2010-06-28
          * 1970 06 28 Bath Festival UK 74.53 AUD MC (wildfisherman-pbuzby-flambay) seeded 2010-12-08
- archived : 1970 06 28 Bath Festival UK 71.08 AUD MC (wildfisherman-pbuzby) shoebox
- before zappateers : ramblinrose (71.27) unknown gen


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1970 08 21 Santa Monica, CA - Aud 100min A
• on the tracker : 1970 08 21 Santa Monica CA Aud (99.14 - av) unknown gen from cdrs - seeded 2005-08-30
• in the shoebox : 1970 08 21 Santa Monica CA 91.11 AUD 1st (FlyingM) seeded 2013-08-11
- boot on the tracker : Vitamin Deficiency - 2 LPs (Maclen)
- before zappateers : davmar77 2nd gen (100.04)


1970 09 25 San Rafael, CA - Aud 120min B+/B Exclamation
• on the tracker : 1970 09 25 San Rafael 113.21 Aud (Yojimbo) low gen - seeded 2006-02-22
a patch surfaced (see raw fill was seeded by jon-fin) but from a bad source

1970 09 26 San Rafael, CA - Aud 120min B Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 09 26 San Rafael CA 118.56 AUD 2nd gen (thenewguy-Musigny23-flambay-Overnitefreak) - seeded 2017-08-05

1970 11 05 San Francisco, CA - SBD 65min A Exclamation
this show is only circulating with lossy encoding
• lossy version on the tracker : 1970 11 05 San Francisco CA 63.30 SBD (GregZ-Pittylabelle) LOSSY seeded 2013-12-28
- archived : 1970 11 05 San Francisco CA 63.33 SBD (Pittylabelle) old version

1970 11 06 San Francisco, CA - Sbd 65min A- • partial video exists
• on the tracker : 1970 11 06 Fillmore West 63.21 SBD (grner1) seeded (from Dime) 2006-10-26 by pbuzby
• lossy version on the tracker : 1970 11 06 San Francisco CA 63.39 SBD (GregZ-Pittylabelle) LOSSY seeded 2013-12-28
some video segment from the same date and location can been seen in the 1971 VPRO documentary Frank Zappa, two versions are on the tracker: seeded by erroneous and seeded by desaab
- archived :
          * 1970 11 06 San Francisco CA 63.37 SBD (Pittylabelle) old lossy version
          * 1970 11 06 Fillmore West CA 58.15 sub-standard version
- before zappateers : many versions have circulated, the one on the tracker is the best


1970 11 14 New York City, NY (previously listed as 1970 11 13 and/or 14)
Early show (previously listed as Tape One - starts with announcement and Paladin Routine) - Sbd 45min A+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 11 14 (E) New York City NY 45.34 SBD (4dave-JWB) seeded 2014-06-19
- archived : 1970 11 13 Late Fillmore East NYC 45.33 SBD A+ (4dave-LudzNL) old version
Late show (previously listed as Tape Two - starts with Grace Slick on stage) - Sbd 70min A+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 11 14 (L) New York City NY 72.14 SBD (4dave-JWB) seeded 2014-06-19
- archived : 1970 11 14 E New York NY SBD (Dameon) old version
Freaks And Motherfu----- and Tengo Na Minchia Tanta BTBs are made from this tapes (but much is missing)
- boot on the tracker : parts of these recordings are featured in the Hotel Dixie boot available on the tracker as part of 20 Years of Frank Zappa (MrUMRK)

1970 11 15 Gorham, ME - Aud 95min B+/B Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 11 15 Gorham ME 96.21 Aud MC (Joe Maloney-KRW&CO-flambay) seeded 2009-01-28

1970 11 20 Columbus, OH - Aud 120min A-/B+
• two different recordings on the tracker:
          * 1970 11 20 Columbus OH 118.34 AUD 3rd (pbuzby-lolive-rumpelstilz) seeded 2008-08-27
          * 1970 11 20 Columbus OH 119.44 AUD alt source (lolive-pbuzby) seeded 2009-07-13
- archived : 1970 11 20 Columbus OH 118.40 AUD 3rd (pbuzby-lolive) unpatched
- before zappateers : BengoFury unknown gen version (114.57)


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1970 11 26 Liverpool, UK - Stage 10 min B+
• on the tracker : see 1970 XX XX ZDF Unaired FZ Portrait 55.31 (Yojimbo-flambay-The Bastard Son) in the Unreleased section
- archived : 1970 11 26 Liverpool UK 24.16 Stage (BengoFury) includes also the Stage fragments from Manchester 11 27

1970 11 27 Manchester, UK
Aud tape - 60min C/C-
• on the tracker : 1970 11 27 Manchester UK 60.31 AUD (rymzlo-flambay) low gen from Cdr - seeded 2012-10-17
- archived : 1970 11 27 Manchester UK 60.24 AUD (rymzlo) from Dime shoebox
Stage tape - 15min B+
• on the tracker : see 1970 XX XX ZDF Unaired FZ Portrait 55.31 (Yojimbo-flambay-The Bastard Son) in the Unreleased section
- archived : 1970 11 26 Liverpool UK 24.16 Stage (BengoFury) includes alsothe recording from Liverpool 11 26

1970 11 29 London, UK
Early show - Aud 90min B/B-
• on the tracker : 1970 11 29 (E) London England 91.14 AUD (wildfisherman-pbuzby) low gen - seeded 2008-01-29
note: probably very low generation
Late show - Aud 110min B/B- Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 11 29 (L) London UK 109.08 AUD 2nd (Yojimbo-Bengofury-Flambay-Overnitefreak) - seeded 2016-12-23
- before zappateers : ninja heavily nr (101.11); MrUmrk incomplete (86.06)

1970 12 02 Kψbenhavn, Denmark - two Aud recording: 95min C and 55min B
• on the tracker : 1970 12 02 Copenhagen DK 91.51 AUD (Yojimbo-Drew51-flambay) unknown gen - restored 2011-06-17
it's the short better sounding version patched with the long one
- archived : 1970 12 02 Copenhagen DK 57.21 AUD (Yojimbo-flambay) short version unpatched, unknown gen

1970 12 06 Amsterdam, Netherlands
Early show - Aud 75min B-
• on the tracker : 1970 12 06 (E) Amsterdam NL 73.28 Aud (Chunga's Revenge) unknown gen - seeded 2008-06-12
Late show - Aud 115min B/B-
• on the tracker : 1970 12 06 Late Amsterdam 114.45 Aud (WIU2B) unknown gen - seeded 2006-12-24 by LudzNL -

1970 12 08 Dόsseldorf, Germany - Aud 120min C: Crying or Very sad Exclamation
• in the shoebox : 1970 12 08 Dusseldorf 103.37 (MarvelMike/taurus) unknown gen, incomplete - seeded 2010-10-23
- archived : 1970 12 08 Dusseldorf Germany - Aud (105.39 - av) heavily nr
- before zappateers : ninja heavily nr (111min)


1970 12 12 Wien, Austria - Aud 125min B- Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 12 12 Vienna AT 127.25 AUD MC (propellerkuh-Yojimbo-flambay) seeded 2010-07-29
- archived : 1970 12 12 Vienna Austria 125.17 Aud (walk) unknown gen, unfixed

1970 12 15 Paris, France - Sbd 105min A - partial video exists
• on the tracker : 1970 12 15 Paris FR 107.29 SBD 3rd (Yojimbo) seeded 2010-09-04
• in the shoebox : 1970 12 15 Palais Gaumont, Paris, France low gen (fzmoi69 doctorzap) DR-1 restored 2011-06-18
- archived : 1970 12 15 Paris France 106.32 SBD (erroneous) unknown gen
- before zappateers : walk (106.05) and jaypfunk (105.20) unknown gen

a short video excerpt is available from the documentary Jean-Luc Ponty, violoniste des temps modernes - different and much longer video (about 20min) is avalaible in the Swedish tv program called Spotlight that is available (in not great quality) here: Swedish TV 1971 "Spotlight" NTSC DVD seeded 2006-10-01 by mcp; more video material from this show has recently surfaced and can be buyed at www.ina.fr
part of this show is available in the BTB Disconnected Synapses

1970 12 16 Bruxelles, Belgium - FM 20min B+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1970 12 16 Brussels BE 19.09 FM 1st (Yojimbo) seeded 2009-12-16
- archived : 1970 12 16 Brussels Belgium 18.36 FM (Bengo) unknown gen

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1971 with Bob Harris : May - July

For this tour are known 4 unofficially taped shows and no sbd

Official live recordings:
- all of Fillmore East, June 1971,
- some of Playground Psychotics,
- one track of YCDTOSA6,
- one track on Finer Moments;
- the Tears Began To Fall / Junier Mintz Boogie single,
- one side of the original 2LP Some Time In New York City by John & Joko.

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1971 05 18 Claremont, CA - Aud 85min B/B-
• on the tracker : 1971 05 18 Claremont 83.12 Aud (Yojimbo-hoosac92-K'tof) unknown gen - seeded 2007-11-08

1971 05 22 Delaware, OH - Aud 65min B+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1971 05 22 Delaware OH 65.41 AUD 1st & UG (doctorzap-Yojimbo-flambay) seeded 2010-12-09
- archived : 1971 05 22 Delaware OH 65.41 AUD 1st 24/96 (Bob M-Doctorzap) bad source 24/96 shoebox
- before zappateers : heavily nr versions: stuhanson (66.21) and ninja (72.10)


1971 05 23 Columbus, OH - Aud 85min B
• on the tracker : 1971 05 23 Columbus OH 85:37 AUD (WIU2B) unknown gen - seeded 2006-02-22
old seed, info dile can be improved
- before zappateers : walk unknow generation (82.20)

1971 05 28 Chicago, IL - Aud 60min C/C-
• on the tracker : 1971 05 21 Chicago IL 59.42 Aud (BuffaloVoice) unknown gen - seeded 2006-02-27

1971 06 06 New York City, NY - Sbd 25min B from video
• video on the tracker : 1971 06 05 FZ & Lennon Fillmore East NYC 24.00 NTSC DVD (rampantbeast-Sir Larry-unicrayon) seeded 2008-03-13
this is quite the same material available in Playground Psychotics and Some Time In New York City - some info about the video here
- other video versions:
          * 1971 06 05 Fillmore East NYC - with John & Yoko 25m - MPG seeded by stickwolf (good audio, not so good video)
          * 1971 06 05 FZ & Lennon Fillmore East NYC NTSC DVD w/ no audio dropouts seeded by Sir Larry (good audio, not so good video)
          * 1971 06 05 FZ & Lennon Fillmore East DVD re-seeded from TTD by rampantbeast (good video, not so good audio)


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1971 with Don Preston : August - December

For these tours are known 19 unofficially taped shows (incl. 2 short SBD/FM)

Official live recordings:
- Carnegie Hall;
- Just Another Band From L.A.;
- some of Playground Psychotics;
- a few tracks of YCDTOSA1;
- one track on Finer Moments;
- one track and some fragments in YCDTOSA6;
- a King Kong portion in YCDTOSA3;
- BTB Swiss Cheese / Fire! is from Montreaux 1971 12 04

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1971 08 07 Los Angeles, CA - Aud 145 min B+/B Smile
• on the tracker : 1971 08 07 Los Angeles CA 142.49 AUD 1st (TB-Drew51-flambay) seeded 2009-07-16
a good portion of this show is available through official releases, see top of this section - see also the JABFLA 2nd Lp in the Unreleased page
- archived : 1971 08 07 Los Angeles 140.07 AUD pbuzby unknown gen

1971 08 28 Portland, IL - Aud 15min B- Crying or Very sad Exclamation
not available
- archived :
          * 1971 08 28 Portland Or 14.22 aud (av) nr, from cdr
          * 1971 08 28 Portland Or 15.14 Aud (av) same as above, not speed corrected
          * 1971 08 28 Portland - Aud (15.17 - av) same as above


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1971 10 06 Boston, MA - Aud 90min B-
• on the tracker : 1971 10 06 Boston MA 92.52 Aud (Hoosac92-Kristoftof) unknown gen - seeded 2007-08-16

1971 10 13 Toronto, Canada - Aud 125min B+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1971 10 13 Toronto Aud MC 123.21 (Yojimbo) seeded 2005-09-24

1971 10 15 Providence, RI - Aud 45min C+
• on the tracker : 1971 10 15 Providence RI 42.58 AUD 2nd (SH-BobM-Drzap-Hoosac-Ktof) seeded 2010-12-20
- archived : 1971 10 15 Providence RI 2nd gen (doctorzap) shoebox

1971 10 16 Stony Brook, NY late show - Aud 85min A-
• on the tracker : 1971 10 16 (L) Stony Brook NY 84.52 Aud 3rd (Yojimbo-flambay) seeded 2007-06-29
• in the shoebox : 1971 10 16 Stony Brook NY raw dat (musigny23) restored 2011-06-18

1971 10 23 Kansas City, MO
Early show - Aud 65min B- Smile
• on the tracker : 1971 10 23 (E) Kansas City MO 66.41 AUD 1st (robsam-doctorzap-flambay) seeded 2011-08-19
- archived :
          * 1971 10 23 E Kansas City MO, 66.22 Aud (Duween) unknown gen
          * 1971 10 23 Early Kansas City MO 66.09 Aud (BengoFury) unknown gen
          * 1971 10 23 Cowtown Ballroom, Kansas City, MO E+L 1st (RobSam doctorzap) shoebox

Late show - Aud 90min B+ Smile
• on the tracker : 1971 10 23 (L) Kansas City MO 89.54 AUD 1st (robsam-doctorzap-flambay) seeded 2011-08-19
- archived :
          * 1971 10 23 (L) Kansas City MO 89.02 Aud (CU-H-walk) unknown gen
          * 1971 10 23 Cowtown Ballroom, Kansas City, MO E+L 1st (RobSam doctorzap) shoebox

1971 11 ?? ABC TV - FM 20min B+ - live in the studio at Dick Cavett show, music is 9min only
• on the tracker : 1971 11 01 Dick Cavett ABC TV 19.56 (taurus) unknown gen - seeded 2006-09-25
the full Dick Cavett show is also included in the GSW Project Vol.#06 - 1971-1972 (T-1483)

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1971 11 19 Stockholm, Sweden - Aud 90min B-
• on the tracker : 1971 11 19 Stockholm 90.08 Aud (BengoFury) seeded 2006-11-29
- before zappateers : Umrk unknown gen (89.51)

1971 11 21 Kψbenhavn, Denmark
Early show - Aud 65min B+/B
• on the tracker : 1971 11 21 (E) Copenhagen Denmark 62.38 Aud (CU-H-walk) unknown gen - seeded 2005-10-11
Late show - Aud 110min B
• on the tracker : 1971 11 21 (L) Copenhagen Denmark 111.52 Aud (walk) unknown gen - seeded 2005-10-14
• in the shoebox : 1971 11 21 Kψbenhavn, Denmark Late Low Gen (RobSam doctorzap) seeded 2012-01-28

1971 11 23 Dόsseldorf, Germany - Aud 135min B+/B
• on the tracker : 1971 11 23 Duesseldorf Germany 134.33 Aud (taurus-BuffaloVoice-WIU2B-MrUmrk) unknown gen - seeded 2006-10-05
it looks like this seed is compiled from different recordings
- archived : 1971 11 23 Duesseldorf Germany 117.09 Aud (BuffaloVoice) incomplete

1971 11 24 Berlin, Germany - Aud 135min B:
• two versions on the tracker :
          * 1971 11 24 Berlin Germany 134.31 Aud (walk) unknown gen from tape - seeded 2005-11-10
          * 1971 11 24 Berlin Germany 134.49 Aud (CU-H-walk) unknown gen from cdrs - seeded 2005-11-15
different versions of the same recording

1971 11 27 Rotterdam, Netherlands - Aud 155min B-
• three versions on the tracker :
          * 1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL 164.31 AUD (Robsam-Doctorzap-Hoosac92-Kristoftof-Maclen-Galeans) Complete show from three sources - seeded 2015-07-30 by Galeans
          * 1971 11 27 Rotterdam 158.03 Aud (Hoosac92-Kristoftof) unknown gen - seeded 2007-04-27
          * 1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL 136.30 AUD (Robsam-Doctorzap-Galeans) - seeded 2015-08-05 by Galeans (incomplete/unpatched version of one source from the first seed)
• in the shoebox : 1971 11 27 Rotterdam, Netherlands Low Gen (RobSam doctorzap) seeded 2012-01-28
- boot on the tracker :
          * In Europe seeded by Pittylabelle
          * Poot Face Boogie seeded by Kristoftof
          * as part of Vitamin Deficiency - 2 LPs (Maclen)
          * Live In Amsterdam 1971 (39.14) seeded by fish (has a track fix by maclen)
- before zappateers : youngpumpkin unknown gen (161.21)


1971 11 28 Frankfurt, Germany
Early show - Aud 90min B-
• on the tracker : 1971 11 28 (E) Frankfurt DE 90.36 AUD (Drew51-flambay) unknown gen - seeded 2010-03-29
Late show - Aud 65min C
• on the tracker : 1971 11 28 (L) Frankfurt DE 65.16 AUD (hoosac92-Kristoftof-flambay) unknown gen - seeded 2010-11-19
- before zappateers : av (64.33) and ninja (63.37) both heavily nr

1971 12 04 Montreux, Switzerland - Aud 90min A/A- Smile Exclamation
• boot on the tracker : 1971 12 04 Montreux CH 90.18 AUD (JWB-flambay) from cd - seeded 2013-10-07
the original Boot CD (CHAM 890050-1/2) seems the only genuine source for this show
- archived :
          * 1971 12 04 Montreux Switzerland AUD A- (Sanjuro) old shn version probably from boot
          * 1971 12 04 Switzerland Casino, Montreux, Switzerland low gen (RobSam doctorzap) shoebox
many boots originates from this show, including the BTBs Swiss Cheese / Fire!


1971 12 10 London, UK - Aud 70min B
• on the tracker : 1971 12 10 London UK 71.30 AUD (walk-flambay) unknown gen - seeded 2015-08-06
• in the shoebox : 1971 12 10 London, UK Aud (RobSam doctorzap) seeded 2012-01-26
parts of this shows are available on official releases (see top of this section)
- archived : 1971 12 10 London, England 71.35 AUD B (walk) unknown gen with some nr

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