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1978 10 31 Palladium NYC 231.41 AUD (GuyBickel-MrUMRK-flambay) fixed ZTLS #903
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Post 2019-10-31 18:55   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
October 31st, 1978
The Palladium
New York City, NY .........The Big One

Apologies all round, mostly me and a little flambay in previous torrent and issues some of you are having. As someone said it could have been my tagging post ftp file. All repaired now.

Well here we are again, Frank's favourite holiday time ...AKA Halloween.

Last time I put this one up was 2018 04 19 with a great deal of interest.

Since then our very own "Magic Fingers" ...AKA Flambay has been requested a few times too take a look/listen and do what he always does and improve on it, with particular attention to the pitch errors.

As a result of that you have what you are about to listen to now. this has been overdue and I am more than grateful of Flambays work on improving it.

Because of what I already stated regarding this show here is a repeat of my previous remarks with the updated remarks by "Flambay". And YES perfect timing, post has just arrived and the official 73 Hallloween box has just arrived [grandkids will love that] Smile Smile

"This show being "The Big One" caught all the people who recorded this one out. Even this recording.
Hence all the tape cuts at so many different places.
This was a very hard show to do.

There are so many delights, but most of all is the sound of the percussion/drums and it's quality [Pound for A Brown/Little House] , astonishing and an absolute delight for me. The recording of the Percussion & Drums sound is something else, a brief conversation with Guy via TPS explained why. Guy set up the JVC recorder directly behind Vinnie backstage, that explains it all. The channels [left & right] are flipped because of set up. However I have not corrected this issue, my thought being "it is what it is". Of course if someone wishes to do that adjustment for themselves then be my guest. Also great to fill in that missing fade out of "Pound For A Brown" [almost a minute]
You add the above to "Zappa Penguins" comments on the obvious tracks [Thirteen, Little House, Packard, Black Napkins/Deathless & Watermelon] and you have THE show to get.

Thanks to our [zappateers] collection we can do our best to get this out to you in as best/complete as possible.
As a result of that I have used many parts of the other versions we have to make the show complete [done my best to itemise every cut & paste ].The many parts are mostly [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP] but amongst that version [my absolute favourite up to this finding] there are many additions that were used.
I have pitch corrected to the best of my ability, but with all the obvious cuts and added parts some errors may have occurred & that will explain the approx. time differential from the other version.[BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP] [231m41s as opposed to 230m28s]. Of course there is the missing Pound for A Brown addition of 52sec.

The MOI:
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
Patrick O'Hearn - bass, vocals
Arthur Barrow - bass, vocals
Denny Walley - slide guitar, vocals
Vinnie Colaiuta - drums, seal calls
Ed Mann - percussion
Tommy Mars - keyboards, vocals
Peter Wolf - keyboards

L. Shankar - electric violin
Warren Cucurullo - monologue
Nancy - monologue

01 Crowd, Tuning (incl. Läther Grout, Revenge From The Knick Knack People, from PA) [1:54] °°° from source #2
02 Ancient Armaments [part on H, part on TFZAABB] [5:09] °°° from source #2
03 "The Big One" Intro [H] [3:46] °°° source #2 patch {0:00-2:22} & {2:41-3:08}
04 Dancin' Fool [H] [4:35]
05 Easy Meat [4:55]
06 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? [5:28]
07 Keep It Greasey [3:04]
08 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing [3:31]
09 City Of Tiny Lites [10:10] °°° tf/source #1 patch {6:01-7:44}
10 Pound For A Brown [5:21]
11 Thirteen* [parts of guitar solo on YCDTOSA6] [17:33]
°°° source #1 patches {4:13-8:49},{13:43-14:10} & {14:53-15:11}
12 Ms. X story** [8:14] °°° source #1 patch {5:49-6:14}
13 fantasy from a girl from the audience [4:48] °°° source #1 patches {0:07-2:42} & {4:15-end}
14 Dinah-Moe Humm [5:05] °°° source #1 patch {0:00-0:03}
15 Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder [2:24]
16 Little Rubber Girl [YCDTOSA4] [3:16]
17 The Idiot Bastard Son [2:30]
18 Bobby Brown [2:46]
19 Conehead* [8:43] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {6:12-end}
20 Suicide Chump [11:11] °°° entire track from Source #1
21 Little House I Used To Live In* [incl. Thirteen Vamp] [13:14]
°°° source #1 patches {0:00-0:06},{1:51-2:15} & {8:43-end}
22 Zeets [H] [4:11] °°° source #1 patches {0:00-0:16} & {3:40-4:02}
23 Watermelon In Easter Hay* [13:28] °°° Source #1 patches {0:01-0:08} & {4:12-end}
24 Stinkfoot [H] [8:28] °°° source #1 patches {0:00-0:02} & {6:53-7:53}
25 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* [YCDTOSA6] [5:04]
26 Peaches En Regalia [2:59]
27 Strictly Genteel [5:43] °°° Source #1 patch {0:07-end}
28 Sofa [2:49] °°° Source #1 patch {0:00-2:30}
29 Packard Goose* [19:27] °°° Source #1 patch {10:18-10:53}
30 Magic Fingers [parts on H] [2:39]
31 Yellow Snow Suite [incl. Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, H] [14:43]
32 Camarillo Brillo [3:21]
33 Muffin Man [4:51] °°° end source #4, crossfade to source #2 over {1:25-1:30}
34 Black Napkins [H] [6:13] °°° source #2 > source #1(snopes-Drew51) at 6:08
35 The Deathless Horsie* [H] [9:53] °°° source #1(sD) {0:00-0:17} > 'Mystery' source {0:17-end}

tf = tapeflip
[ = cut at the end
] = cut at the beginning
~ = fading in/out or connects two or more tracks played like one (medley)
-IC = incomplete
& = added from dif source, complete or partly

Source: AUD/JVC ghettoblaster>TDK DA-C90 & SA-C60 cassettes>wav no noise reduction>A/D Nakamichi CR-4E [az adj~Dolby out/Bias mid/EQ 120us/Tape Select Out/output 8~MAudio USB> SF8 vol & Pitch adj only ** >flac front end
Taped by: Mr Guy Bickel
Transferred by: MrUMRK
Cut & Paste editing & advice: SonofMrU
Edited: MrUMRK
file Size: 1.52GB (FLAC)

Sound adjustments: (NOTE: always minimal)

** Following adjustments with Sound Forge 8 to balance and level recording channels...NO EQ
Max samples s1~l =11.721 adj. 11.70
Max samples s1~r =10.981 adj. 10.90
Result = 0.051
Max samples s2~l =11.934 adj. 11.90
Max samples s2~r =11.693 adj. 11.60
Result = 0.064

Pitch shift:
S1 = +15.9cts [see further notes]
S2 = +15.0cts [see further notes]

thanks to TPS for this tape.
Thanks to Guy Bickel for recording it & allowing us to do our best to get it out to you all. [love those ghettoblasters... ]
Thanks to the "BengoFury-KCDiscipline-flambay-ZappaPenguin" version [without which there would have only been approx 155m recording time].
thanks to SonofMrU for all help/advice in the making of this show.
Thanks to the use of "Unicrayons" artwork from previous version [fitted well being "The Big One"]
Of course...mostly, thanks to Frank for being Frank.

In the end it's up to you the listener to make a judgment as to if the work carried out was worth it.

Sit back, for a long long time, and soak it up and enjoy this show.

Thankyou thankyou and thankyou
Smile Smile Smile

PS: If youre in the dark corner listening Joe please,please,please find this COMPLETE show in the Vaults [instant sale of thousands if you do....yes I know Halloween is out, but ALL OF IT].

PPS: See 8 other sources in The Catalogue

PPPS: My apologies for any errors in text above, rather a lot to do.

PPPPS: There is also an unpatched version of this show here

Do what you want,do what you will,DON'T mess up your neighbours thrill.....Music is the best.
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Post 2019-10-31 19:04   [Quote] 
If I read the info, this seems to be the patched version

torrent file name is correct, thread name is wrong

now all is good!
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Thanks you
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Post 2019-10-31 19:12   [Quote] 
Thanks SO much for all the efforts chaps....And it's turned out that the final, final version has been seeded on the most appropriate day! haloween haloween

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thanks for the fixed version.
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Thanks everyone, happy Saci Day!

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thank you for your tireless efforts!

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Thank you very much!
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Absolutely fucking smashing! Thanks again dude! Very Happy

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