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staaan
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Post 2018-05-14 22:58   [Quote] 
This past Saturday I had some time to kill while waiting for a buddy of mine so I decided to pop into this used record/CD store and I spotted a copy of The Lost Episodes the price was right so I bought it and I'm really glad I did.

I had never really gotten into Beefheart and now I have to say that I'm intrigued. A couple of the songs from this CD that got me were Tiger Roach, Alley Cat, The Grand Wazoo

The instrumental version of Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance is outstanding!!!

Cops & Buns is brilliant, the Police Officer sounds like he's straight out of casting.

Charva has been stuck in my head since I first played it. The sniffing glue line cracks me up every time.

Back to Tiger Roach in the lyrics there is mention of "Monza blocks!" and for whatever reason immediately thought of Electric Aunt Jemima and the line "Monza by the street light".

Who or what is Monza?

Finally Lil`Clanton Shuffle is right on!
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Post 2018-05-14 23:45   [Quote] 
"Cops and Buns" is also in the alternate Uncle Meat sequence included in Meat Light. Having it segue to "Zolar Czakl" is funny.
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Post 2018-05-15 02:56   [Quote] 
staaan wrote:
Who or what is Monza?

In What Do You Want From Life? by The Tubes, it was a "a subcompact, four-passenger automobile produced by Chevrolet for the 1975–1980 model years." But in Tiger Roach it was "the sport version of the Chevrolet Corvair."
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Post 2018-05-16 03:30   [Quote] 
^ A car huh? oh well I thought it might be something more interesting then that. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post 2018-05-17 02:12   [Quote] 
1966 Chevy Corvair Monza
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Post 2018-08-07 21:46   [Quote] 
Well, it's more interesting and at the same time Zappa-related than you might think.

In 1965 a man named Ralph Nader published a book entitled "Unsafe at Any Speed" about the bad practices of car manufacturers and their reluctance to add safety features to their vehicles. The Corvair was featured in one chapter and was also the car pictured on the front of the book. It made the car even more unpopular than it already was, but moreover it helped to spur congress to create the National Transportation and Safety Board, and the Department of Transportation. Meanwhile, almost all states wound up requiring seatbelts in new cars.

But wait, there's more! A prominent conservative lawyer, who defended the tobacco industry in the 60s and who would later wind up being President Nixon's pick for the Supreme Court, was worried that the book had started a wave of mistrust against manufacturers and was another step toward --dun dun dunnnnn-- COMMUNISM. In response, he drafted a letter known as the Powell Memorandum, which became the blueprint for the American neoconservative movement, and thus created the shitty mess that Frank tried to fight in the last years of his life, and which steamrolled the American political system all the way up to today.

So Reagan, Bush, Dubya, Trump and all of the conservative wack-Os can thank Chevrolet for making such a shitty car. It started or boosted their political careers and helped throw this country (and, by extension, the World) into chaos.

Ironically, the book helped extend the life of the Monza, which Chevrolet had planned to drop from its lineup. But after the book came out, they were afraid it would look like they were caving in under pressure, so they kept it around a few more years.


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Post 2018-08-07 23:23   [Quote] 
McMick wrote:
Well, it's more interesting and at the same time Zappa-related than you might think.

In 1965 a man named Ralph Nader published a book entitled "Unsafe at Any Speed" about the bad practices of car manufacturers and their reluctance to add safety features to their vehicles. The Corvair was featured in one chapter and was also the car pictured on the front of the book. It made the car even more unpopular than it already was, but moreover it helped to spur congress to create the Nantional Transportation and Saftey Board, and the Department of Transportation. Meanwhile, almost all states wound up requiring seatbelts in new cars.

But wait, there's more! A prominent conservative lawyer, who defended the tobacco industry in the 60s and who would later wind up being President Nixon's pick for the Supreme Court, was worried that the book had started a wave of mistrust against manufacturers and was another step toward --dun dun dunnnnn-- COMMUNISM. In response, he drafted a letter known as the Powell Memorandum, which became the blueprint for the American neoconservative movement, and thus created the shitty mess that Frank tried to fight in the last years of his life, and which steamrolled the American political system all the way up to today.

So Reagan, Bush, Dubya, Trump and all of the conservative wack-Os can thank Chevrolet for making such a shitty car. It started or boosted their political careers and helped throw this country (and, by extension, the World) into chaos.

Ironically, the book helped extend the life of the Monza, which Chevrolet had planned to drop from its lineup. But after the book came out, they were afraid it would look like they were caving in under pressure, so they kept it around a few more years.


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Post 2018-08-08 00:10   [Quote] 
It's spelled lunatic, not "lunitic". Get your insults straight before you post them!
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Post 2018-08-08 01:35   [Quote] 
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Ironically, the book helped extend the life of the Monza, which Chevrolet had planned to drop from its lineup. But after the book came out, they were afraid it would look like they were caving in under pressure, so they kept it around a few more years.


IIRC, the steering part that caused all the fuss and prompted Nader's book was present in the early Corvair's ('61-'63) or something like that. I believe the problem was corrected on the later cars like the '66 pictured above and by the time the book was published. It was too late to save the Corvair which was actually a pretty interesting car for Chevrolet with it's air-cooled flat 6 rear mounted engine. My great aunt had a '67 and it was a great car. She owned until her death in 1989.
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Post 2018-08-10 00:47   [Quote] 
doctorzap wrote:

roflol another lunitic socialist !


Besides constantly airing your despicable political beliefs, you have a clear talent for insulting people you don't know in a childish manner.

Something tells me that if you tried doing this to someone's face, you would be knocked out with one swift punch.

So instead you do it on the internet because you are a coward, like all loudmouth conservatives.

And your poor grasp of spelling, grammar and general common sense is still a constant source of amusement all these years later.

Maybe someday you can become president! Anything is possible now.
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Post 2018-08-10 08:06   [Quote] 
It’s best to ignore him and his rants at least he has stopped wishing ass cancer on folks which was the height of his ‘sophisticated’ political discourse. Long live the Resistance...


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Post 2018-08-10 14:24   [Quote] 
wingedeelfingerling wrote:
Long live the Resustance .


Laughing

Well done.
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Post 2018-08-10 16:15   [Quote] 
offtopic okay, back to the topic now please...
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Post 2018-08-10 18:46   [Quote] 
oofers wrote:
wingedeelfingerling wrote:
Long live the Resustance .


Laughing

Well done.
corrected thank you for pointing it out Px But as the man says back on Topic... does anyone know for sure what is in the catologue 1958-1966? There are various out of copyright releases but I would find it surprising that Frank did not have his own copies of everything he recorded. It would be interesting if the Vault published a catologue of what exists, I’d buy it!
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Post 2018-08-10 18:49   [Quote] 
staaan wrote:
This past Saturday I had some time to kill while waiting for a buddy of mine so I decided to pop into this used record/CD store and I spotted a copy of The Lost Episodes the price was right so I bought it and I'm really glad I did.

I had never really gotten into Beefheart and now I have to say that I'm intrigued. A couple of the songs from this CD that got me were Tiger Roach, Alley Cat, The Grand Wazoo

The instrumental version of Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance is outstanding!!!

Cops & Buns is brilliant, the Police Officer sounds like he's straight out of casting.

Charva has been stuck in my head since I first played it. The sniffing glue line cracks me up every time.

Back to Tiger Roach in the lyrics there is mention of "Monza blocks!" and for whatever reason immediately thought of Electric Aunt Jemima and the line "Monza by the street light".

Who or what is Monza?

Finally Lil`Clanton Shuffle is right on!


Cool, man....I love TLS, it's such a nice trek through Zappaland catching a wide variety of excellent moments...Zappacheers!

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