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Frank Zappa
October 31st, 1978
The Palladium
New York City, NY
.................The Big One

This show being "The Big One" caught all the people who recorded this one out. Even this recording.
Hence all the tape cuts at so many different places.
This was a very hard show to do.

There are so many delights, but most of all is the sound of the percussion/drums and it's quality [Pound for A Brown/Little House] , astonishing and an absolute delight for me. The recording of the Percussion & Drums sound is something else, a brief conversation with Guy via TPS explained why. Guy set up the JVC recorder directly behind Vinnie backstage, that explains it all. The channels [left & right] are flipped because of set up. However I have not corrected this issue, my thought being "it is what it is". Of course if someone wishes to do that adjustment for themselves then be my guest. Also great to fill in that missing fade out of "Pound For A Brown" [almost a minute]
You add the above to "Zappa Penguins" comments on the obvious tracks [Thirteen, Little House, Packard, Black Napkins/Deathless & Watermelon] and you have THE show to get.

Thanks to our [zappateers] collection we can do our best to get this out to you in as best/complete as possible.
As a result of that I have used many parts of the other versions we have to make the show complete [done my best to itemise every cut & paste ].The many parts are mostly [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP] but amongst that version [my absolute favourite up to this finding] there are many additions that were used.
I have pitch corrected to the best of my ability, but with all the obvious cuts and added parts some errors may have occurred & that will explain the approx. time differential from the other version.[BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP] [231m50s as opposed to 230m28s]. Of course there is the missing Pound for A Brown addition of 52sec.

The MOI:
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
Patrick O'Hearn - bass, vocals
Arthur Barrow - bass, vocals
Denny Walley - slide guitar, vocals
Vinnie Colaiuta - drums, seal calls
Ed Mann - percussion
Tommy Mars - keyboards, vocals
Peter Wolf - keyboards

Guests:
L. Shankar - electric violin
Warren Cucurullo - monologue
Nancy - monologue

Setlist:
01 Ancient Armaments & [taken from [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]]
02 intro & [missing parts added from [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]
03 Dancin' Fool
04 Easy Meat
05 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?
06 Keep It Greasey
07 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing
08 City Of Tiny Lights & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 06:08-07:47]
09 A Pound For A Brown [new section @ 04:30-05:22]
10 Thirteen tf & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 04:23-08:53] nom: 7.5s added
11 Ms. X (story told by Warren Cucurullo)
12 Nancy's Life Story & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 00:12:00-02:43, 04:23 to end]
13 Dinah-Moe Humm & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert start-00:02]
14 Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder
15 Rubber Girl
16 Idiot Bastard Son
17 Bobby Brown
18 Conehead & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 06:16 to end]
19 Suicide Chump [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]
20 Little House I Used To Live In & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ start-00:05:108, 01:52-02:15, 08:52-13:39, 17:06-17:20]
21 Watermelon In Easter Hay & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert@04:10 to end] tape 2
22 preamble [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]
23 Stinkfoot & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ start-00:02:391, 07:00-08:09]
24 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
25 Peaches En Regalia
26 Strictly Genteel & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 00:08:00 to end]
27 Sofa & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert start-02:30]
28 Packard Goose tf & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 10:33-11:04]
29 Magic Fingers
30 Don't Eat The Yellow Snow
31 Nanook Rubs It
32 St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast
33 Father Oblivion
34 Rollo
35 Camarillo Brillo
36 Muffin Man & [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP insert @ 01:26:192 to end]
37 Black Napkins [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]
38 Deathless Horsie [BengoFury~KCDiscipline~fl~ZP]

abbreviations:
tf = tapeflip
[ = cut at the end
] = cut at the beginning
~ = fading in/out or connects two or more tracks played like one (medley)
-IC = incomplete
& = added from dif source, complete or partly

Source: AUD/JVC ghettoblaster>TDK DA-C90 & SA-C60 cassettes>wav no noise reduction>A/D Nakamichi CR-4E [az adj~Dolby out/Bias mid/EQ 120us/Tape Select Out/output 8~MAudio USB> SF8 vol & Pitch adj only ** >flac front end
Taped by: Mr Guy Bickel
Transferred by: MrUMRK
Cut & Paste editing & advice: SonofMrU
Edited: MrUMRK
file Size: 1.52GB (FLAC)

Sound adjustments: (NOTE: always minimal)

Notes:
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** Following adjustments with Sound Forge 8 to balance and level recording channels...NO EQ
Max samples s1~l =11.721 adj. 11.70
Max samples s1~r =10.981 adj. 10.90
Result = 0.051
Max samples s2~l =11.934 adj. 11.90
Max samples s2~r =11.693 adj. 11.60
Result = 0.064

Pitch shift:
S1 = +15.9cts [see further notes]
S2 = +15.0cts [see further notes]

credits:
thanks to TPS for this tape.
Thanks to Guy Bickel for recording it & allowing us to do our best to get it out to you all. [love those ghettoblasters... Smile ]
Thanks to the "BengoFury-KCDiscipline-flambay-ZappaPenguin" version [without which there would have only been approx 155m recording time].
thanks to SonofMrU for all help/advice in the making of this show.
Thanks to the use of "Unicrayons" artwork from previous version [fitted well being "The Big One"]
Of course...mostly, thanks to Frank for being Frank.

FFP:
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1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 01 - Ancient Armaments.flac:bb76cccbcae11154b67690063e4fe8bb
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 02 - intro.flac:3e5b630ba7ae71cc97396988edf4cdfd
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 03 - Dancing Fool.flac:b87bf75d02cf2a9b5d47f80248c66cee
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 04 - Easy Meat.flac:dd9208e03d9fc9fc494483839369e97d
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 05 - Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me.flac:ad98ca8dfe78103d0247eb46d56423fb
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 06 - Keep It Greasy.flac:06ff529c491ba24415597eb5bb7c89b9
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 07 - The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.flac:f1fc9ad49f1a539fb5a19346eea4e03f
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 08 - City Of Tiny Lights.flac:0223c54b173779f87843753e0eae6c6a
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 09 - Pound For A Brown.flac:926465d63f18faf9a79376163065d857
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 10 - Thirteen.flac:b399c546f201f8f44d4676180cd77e96
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 11 - Ms X.flac:be93c5744e34d94ac81f5906cd531056
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 12 - Nancy's Life Story.flac:9e14900043f16ed8ec831fa23565629b
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 13 - Dinah Mo Hum .flac:d282208441a963ad5016a60565003fcd
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 14 - Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder.flac:150c0423776c236d885e1572e7a298a0
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 15 - Rubber Girl.flac:0a5fc1c6b7016b709ef343bee355934c
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 16 - The Idiot Bastard Son.flac:079f04e79cdf8156b225244b876fdc57
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 17 - Bobby Brown Goes Down.flac:19e91b6cd5e3d871dcae7acf2d9ebc87
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 18 - Conehead.flac:144d0e522201e2ca4c290b780f0d0dcd
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 19 - Suicide Chump.flac:00e5703ce7442b51089ba3cc3c82cb0b
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 20 - Little House I Used To Live In.flac:f70cb040fb114c78641fb645e24024d7
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 21 - Watermelon In Easter Hay.flac:cba091b5e1c304e5a6f2608efb7aefba
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 22 - preamble .flac:27a4d093015941b7ba28c4ce2e027c99
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 23 - Stinkfoot.flac:f6b64ec812222aab0a2c9398e5946bfb
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 24 - Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance .flac:2282e6b860eef36a7df288db3f6a46e7
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 25 - Peaches En Regalia .flac:8ff4d61c745b83cfde61f7f1d9b92149
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 26 - Strictly Genteel.flac:685ed6a6dc24c225f3167e1b4b1461a8
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 27 - Sofa.flac:b240f3a67cb8d93fa0a5ddfab3bbf861
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 28 - Packard Goose.flac:451fcadb44c5b4ac59f450027f2957aa
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 29 - Magic Fingers.flac:07b9d71c0625874aab2b014a192055f1
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 30 - Don't Eat The Yellow Snow.flac:826339c1101f4f1a5bea7a72c52547ce
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 31 - Nanook Rubs It.flac:f5192b3c87d449fb84d4b5b56b98a02e
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 32 - St Alphonsos Pancake Breakfast.flac:c0e5547e1116c153baf285a34c3fedda
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 33 - Father O'Blivion.flac:99a3630756c500d8984fea50f54deed6
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 34 - Rollo.flac:ca5198fdfdcc07580a0bf2c8f01857a4
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 35 - Camarillo Brillo.flac:526cd3069486e10582dcf9579f45aac1
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 36 - Muffin Man.flac:fb8f0aaf28d3a8849779c75b973644eb
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 37 - Black Napkins.flac:4562132ff1b0aee5a0971e1940d65059
1978 10 31 NYC NY Palladium The Big One 38 - The Deathless Horsie.flac:e866c76185cc137ad5c8e73f5e38a6e4


Further Pitch & Vol Adj.

Quote:
01 Ancient Armaments from other source
02 intro combination of other sources [general 25-33cts] Vol Adj -1.5dB
03 Dancing Fool 30.1cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
04 Easy Meat 22.4cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
05 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me 23.7cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
06 Keep It Greasy 16.6cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
07 The Meek Shall Shall Inherit Nothing 20.2cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
08 City Of Tiny Lights 20.7cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
09 Pound For A Brown no adj Vol Adj -0.5dB
10 Thirteen 27.1cts Vol Adj -4dB
11 Ms X 25cts Vol Adj 1.5dB
12 Nancy's Life Story 9.8cts Vol Adj -2dB
13 Dinah-Mo-Hum 17.1cts Vol Adj -0.5dB
14 Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder 25.1cts Vol Adj 0.5dB
15 Rubber Girl 15.2cts Vol Adj 0.5dB
16 Idiot Bastard Son 20.6cts No Vol Adj
17 Bobby Brown 18.7cts No Vol Adj
18 Conehead 27.3cts No Vol Adj
19 Suicide Chump no adj No Vol Adj
20 Little House I Used To Live In 22.2-35.5ctsVol Adj -2dB on inserts
21 Watermelon In Easter Hay 4.8cts No Vol Adj
22 preamble no adj Vol Adj 3.5dB
23 Stinkfoot 41.5cts No Vol Adj
24 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 35.8cts Vol Adj 1.5dB
25 Peaches En Regalia no adj Vol Adj 1.2dB
26 Strictly Genteel no adj Vol Adj -1.5dB
27 Sofa no adj Vol Adj -1.5dB
28 Packard Goose 38.8cts No Vol Adj
29 Magic Fingers 55.8cts No Vol Adj
30 Don't Eat The Yellow Snow 48.0cts No Vol Adj
31 Nanook Rubs It 48.2cts No Vol Adj
32 St Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast 23.8cts No Vol Adj
33 Father Oblivion 54.3cts Vol Adj 0.35dB
34 Rollo 58.8cts Vol Adj 0.35dB
35 Camarillo Brillo -27.1cts Vol Adj 0.35dB
36 Muffin Man 6.9cts Vol Adj 0.35dB
37 Black Napkins from other source Vol Adj 1dB
38 Deathless Horsie from other source No Vol Adj



In the end it's up to you the listener to make a judgment as to if the work carried out was worth it.

Sit back, for a long long time, and soak it up and enjoy this show.

Thankyou thankyou and thankyou
MrU [MrUMRK]

PS: If youre in the dark corner listening Joe please,please,please find this COMPLETE show in the Vaults [instant sale of thousands if you do....yes I know Halloween is out, but ALL OF IT].

PPS: See 8 other sources in The Catalogue

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One of my favorite FZ shows - thank you for all your work on this. I concur...Joe, if you're listening - please the full show!
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Tremendous job MrUmrk, a labour of love I know, but still a mighty task to take on.

Guy sent me this shot of Vinnie from that very night.

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Tried to download the file to my Mac...problems. Any advice or tips?
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