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Post 2017-07-20 21:20   [Quote] 
35 years ago today!

... and newly emerged in this thread from 2006:


1982 06 05 Schuettorf 84.18 Aud samples (Pittylabelle)
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6698

Another long-term Zappateer member Thinman was so kind to send me his original safety cassettes via snailmail.
BTW, the real distance here in the Fatherland is only 105 km (65 Miles).

Samples:
01 Zoot Allures (cbfz-walk-fl)
01 Zoot Allures (Thinman)
03 Stink Foot (cbfz-walk-fl)
03 Stink Foot (Thinman)
05 RDNZL (cbfz-walk-fl)
05 RDNZL (Thinman)
06 Advance Romance (cbfz-walk-fl)
06 Advance Romance (Thinman)
07 Sinister Footwear#2 (bfz-walk-fl)
07 Sinister Footwear#2 (Thinman)
09 Fine Girl (bfz-walk-fl)
09 Fine Girl (Thinman)
11 King Kong (bfz-walk-fl)
11 King Kong (Thinman)
12 Doreen (bfz-walk-fl)
12 Doreen (Thinman)
14 Black Page#2 (fbfz-walk-fl)
14 Black Page#2 (Thinman)
17 No No Cherry (bfz-walk-fl)
17 No No Cherry (Thinman)
19 The Illinois Enema Bandit (bfz-walk-fl)
19 The Illinois Enema Bandit (Thinman)

This is what Thinman said about his two cassettes:

Thinman wrote:
cbfz55 wrote:

The taper of my tapes was not a true Zappa fan; he did several recordings on different locations
in 1982 (like Ahlen, too), working in Phonac record store in Bielefeld (I cannot remember his name, sorry),
where he sold his copies of the master tapes by request without permission of the store.

I find it interesting that I also still have those two C60 cassettes from exactly the same guy.
Mine are TDK and have my own handwriting on them. Just "Schüttdorf I" and "Schüttdorf II".
So they might be my own safety copies, but I don't remember ever having any "originals".
So it would be possible that I gave the guy fresh cassettes back then and he would just
have made the copy.

Since I don't have a working cassette machine anymore, would anybody be interested in these
two cassettes and check if there is still any usable audio quality on them and compare it to the most
recent version http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7312


So as said, it's from the same (main) source as in this project:
1982 06 05 Schuettorf 101.05 Aud 1st (cbfz55-walk-fl) w.fills
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7312

For better comparison, I've made track samples of both versions - 1.30 mins each.

Of course, no audio modifications like EQing were applied to Thinman's version -
just a "channel matching" and a "phase offset fixing".

I've made no speed correction, but the speed fits interestingly fairly good to the torrent version.
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Post 2017-08-27 19:46   [Quote] 
A very short Schüttorf-clip from the vault: https://youtu.be/sl1ogI1zPng
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Post 2017-08-28 14:47   [Quote] 
Thinman wrote:
A very short Schüttorf-clip from the vault: https://youtu.be/sl1ogI1zPng


Thanks for the heads up, Thinman!

A newly uploaded and so called "FAULT CLIP" from "Who the F*@% is Frank Zappa?"
"Bobby Brown" - Property of ZFT - recorded by Thomas Nordegg

BTW, this was my very first open air festival and my very first rock concert too: Schüttorf, Germany, 1982 06 05

Cool, priceless stuff - never ever saw any Zappa video material from Schüttorf '82 before!!!
Back then, think I'm the little boy in the audience in the eleventh row, number 76, from the left side. Very Happy
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Post 2017-08-30 01:28   [Quote] 
IMO the two versions here sound nearly identical. Not sure if there is a need for a new version. Anyone else want to weigh in?
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Post 2017-08-30 01:58   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
IMO the two versions here sound nearly identical. Not sure if there is a need for a new version. Anyone else want to weigh in?


Thanks pbuzby - at least, that was also my conclusion!

And that maybe explains why 17 other downloaders for a " Samples & Fills" here have absolutely no other opinion.

Seems that these "Safety Copies" from Thinman are pretty good preserved.

Again, thanks for checking this out!
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Post 2017-08-31 08:30   [Quote] 
Pittylabelle wrote:

Back then, think I'm the little boy in the audience in the eleventh row, number 76, from the left side. Very Happy

I looked very concentrated but didn't find myself either. At the start of the show I was in the front but soon moved back a few rows because FZ's guitar was very loud directly from the amp in the front rows. I didn't find people I was there with either. I probably wouldn't recognize a 35 years younger Thinman anyway Wink.
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Post 2017-08-31 12:49   [Quote] 
Thinman wrote:
At the start of the show I was in the front but soon moved back a few rows
because FZ's guitar was very loud directly from the amp in the front rows.


I would have liked it! music014
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