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Post 2017-02-24 10:14   [Quote] 
A little while ago we had some ZTLS sessions where a couple of shows were chosen for the 3rd time..... I thought there must be some good quality shows around that have NEVER been a ZTLS (I realise it must be a bit of a pain to have to find a different show every week) Anyway, I had a bit of time on my hands so I thought I'd try and help the guys who do that by compiling a list.

The list below consists of shows which have never been a ZTLS, are rated at A+, A, A- or B+, and are of decent length... there are 1 or 2 (4 actually) which are only an hour long, and a few (especially in '73 '74 and '75) which are around 90 minutes, but most are 100+ minutes. Also included are 10 shows which HAVE been a ZTLS before but the last/only time was more than 10 years ago.

The ratings are from the individual thread pages of the shows, not from The Catalogue.
There are probably some I've missed.
There are a few B+/B's included too, although I left out far more than I put in.

Later:
Phew! That took much, MUCH longer than I thought it was going to... therefore I've only done years '73 - '82 inclusive. I couldn't really see anything 'new' in years '66-'72, most were quite short and didn't fit in with the criteria I'd set... I have not done years '84 and '88 (yet). If this list does prove to be helpful I'd gladly add those years later, I'm sure there's plenty there.

Hopefully this list will hang around for a while and if the guys choosing the ZTLSs ever need an idea then it may be of assistance to them.

Later Edit:
I see that one of my list has just gone up as ZTLS #765 (Gothenburg 1979).... Smile

1973 03 02 Tampa FL 66.15 AUD (Tsinsomnia-Galeans-Flambay). B+
1973 03 11 Arlington TX 100.07 AUD 1st (T-blackpage-Drew51-The Evil Prince). A-
1973 05 xx Unknown Venue 70.48 SBD (RobSam-doctorzap-flambay-mudsharknyc). A
1973 05 13 Cincinnatti OH 80.18 AUD 1st (JEMS-walk-flambay). A-/B+
1973 06 24 Sydney AU 151.23 SBD-AUD (robsam-drzap-Murry-FTA-OF-flambay). A- (actually only the SBD is A-. the Aud fills/tracks are poor..)
1973 09 03 Munich DE 110.25 Aud 2nd (kipco-walk-fl). B+/B
1973 09 14 London UK 116.25 Aud (Yojimbo-Bengo-fl). B+/B (has been a ZTLS [#256] but not for 10 years.)
1973 11 06 (L) Hempstead NY 92.03 Aud MC (Yojimbo). B+
1973 11 22 (E) NYC 94.43 (Grape-Yojimbo). B+/B

1974 05 10 Flint MI 98.47 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-Overnitefreak). B+
1974 07 17 Phoenix AZ 82.28 SBD (jaypfunk-BF-WIU2B-LudzNL-fl-ZP). B+
1974 09 16 Hamburg DE 132.03 Aud (av). B+
1974 09 25 Gothenburg SE 105.04 SBD 2nd (fzmoi69-doctorzap-flambay). A-/B+
1974 11 06 Pittsburgh PA 59.14 SBD 2nd (robsam-doctorzap-flambay). A/A-
1974 11 15 Buffalo NY 80.52 SBD 2nd (robsam-doctorzap-flambay). A/A-
1974 11 29 Naperville IL 62.15 SBD 2nd (robsam-doctorzap-flambay). A-/B+

1975 10 14 Kansas City KS 71.04 Aud 2nd gen (Yojimbo-ZP). A-
1975 10 29 (E) Waterbury CT 88.01 AUD 1st (BobM-drzap-BF-WIU2B-D51-flambay). A-/B+
1975 11 28 Milwaukee WI 122.54 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-The Evil Prince). B+
1975 12 05 London, Canada 93.46 Aud MC (av). B+
1975 12 26 Oakland CA 115.48 AUD 1st (Yojimbo-marcomat-Kristoftof-flambay). B+/B
1975 12 31 Inglewood CA 96.55 Aud 1st (Yojimbo-fl). B+/B

1976 02 13 (L) Vienna AT 110.38 Aud (walk-fl). B+
1976 02 15 Ludwigshafen DE 151.20 AUD (BobM-DrZap-Yojimbo-Drew51-K'tof). B+/A-
1976 02 20 Hamburg DE 146.09 AUD (Yojimbo). B+
1976 02 24 Stockholm SE 75.30 AUD (Drew51-Rabbit-Ktof). B+
1976 02 29 (L) Copenhagen DK 110.00 AUD (jaypfunk). A-
1976 03 12 Zurich CH 113.28 1st gen Aud (Yojimbo). B+
1976 10 30 Felt Forum NYC 113.31 Aud 1st (Yojimbo-fl). A-/B+
1976 11 18 DeKalb IL 104.16 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-The Evil Prince). A-

1977 01 26 Munich DE 102.07 AUD (Yojimbo-flambay-Overnitefreak). B+/B
1977 09 29 Toronto 134.00 2nd gen Aud (Yojimbo-fl). B+ (has been a ZTLS [#212] but not for 11 years.)
1977 10 20 (E) Boston MA 121.02 Aud (walk). A-/B+
1977 11 11 Kansas City MO 134.01 AUD (agalli-flambay-RobSam-doctorzap-mudsharknyc). A-/B+

1978 02 06 Paris FR 144.46 AUD 2nd (StefanoVai-Galeans-flambay). B+
1978 02 07 Paris FR 151.02 Aud (walk). A- (has been a ZTLS [#176] but not for nearly 12 years.)
1978 02 14 Cologne DE 91.12 AUD (hoosac92-K'tof-flambay). B+/B
1978 02 26 Brussels BE 118.31 Aud MC (unimuta-walk) B+ (has been a ZTLS [#194] but not for 11 years.)
1978 09 03 Saarbrucken DE 76.26 SBD LP (JWB-flambay-M-walk). A-
1978 09 15 Miami FL 142.03 Aud 3rd (Hoosac92-Kristoftof). B+
1978 09 19 Columbus OH 110.10 AUD 1st (BlkNapkins-bsulon-D51-fl). B+/B
1978 10 15 (L) Stony Brook NY 75.42 SBD (Drew51-fl). A+/A
1978 10 27 (E) Palladium NYC 94.40 AUD 1st (SH-Drew51-flambay). A-

1979 02 21 Brussels BE 100.48 Aud (Yojimbo). A- (has been a ZTLS [#292] but not for 10 years.)
1979 03 06 Gothenburg SE 120.27 AUD 1st (SH-Drew51-flambay). B+/B
1979 03 29 Cologne DE 108.04 AUD (D51-Arcorman-Pittylabelle-fl-OF). B+

1980 03 27 Eugene OR 107.50 AUD (WIU2B-Yojimbo-pbuzby-fl-ZP). B+
1980 04 01 (L) Berkeley CA 120.25 Aud MC (grner1-mus23-flambay). A
1980 04 08 (E) Phoenix AZ 113.14 AUD (WIU2B-LudzNL-CR-ZP). B+/B
1980 04 11 Wichita KS 124.52 Aud 1st gen (Hoosac92-Kristoftof). A-/B+
1980 04 12 (L) Omaha NE 106.08 AUD MC-1st (CharleyC-weedwacker-snopes-D51-fl-OF). A-
1980 04 13 (E) Kansas City KS 104.25 Aud (BengoFury-fl). A-/B+
1980 04 18 (E) Sunrise FL 94.03 AUD (Hoosac92-Drew51-K'tof). B+
1980 04 18 (L) Sunrise FL 89.27 AUD (teasea). B+
1980 04 20 (E) Atlanta GA 107.31 AUD 2nd (Yojimbo-pbuzby). B+
1980 04 20 (L) Atlanta GA 106.30 AUD 2nd (pbuzby-Yojimbo). B+
1980 05 03 (E) Boston MA 100.10 AUD 2nd (Sir Larry-pbuzby). B+
1980 05 06 Columbus OH 121.54 (pbuzby). B+
1980 05 09 Uniondale NY 142.21 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-fzmoi69-flambay). A-/B+
1980 05 11 Baltimore MD 108.30 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-flambay). A-
1980 05 28 Kiel DE 115.37 Aud (Drew51-Hoosac92-Yojimbo-K'tof). B+
1980 06 04 Hamburg DE 127.43 Aud (MH-walk-fl). A-/B+
1980 06 05 Hannover DE 118.04 AUD (snopes-Drew51-flambay). A-/B+
1980 06 08 Dortmund DE 132.10 AUD (snopes-Drew51-flambay). B+/A-
1980 06 11 (E) Paris FR 132.35 FM (WIU2B). B+
1980 06 28 Sindelfingen DE 105.39 AUD MC (DogBreath-WIU2B-flambay). A/A-
1980 10 13 (E) Phoenix AZ 60.56 SBD (Drew51-flambay). A/A-
1980 11 01 (E) New York NY 97.31 AUD ((Yojimbo-fzmoi69-adictedttull-CR). B+/A-
1980 11 01 (L) New York NY 89.53 AUD MC (fzmoi69-adictedttull-CR). B+/A-
1980 11 08 Providence RI 109.31 AUD MC (fzmoi69-doctorzap-flambay). A-/B+
1980 11 10 Richfield OH 62.40 SBD (billyschools-Yojimbo-pbuzby-S~CA). A-
1980 11 13 (E) Pittsburgh PA 91.22 SBD (Robsam-doctorzap-flambay). A-/B+
1980 11 18 St Paul MN 130.07 AUD (WIU2B-D51-fl-mnyc). A-/B+
1980 11 26 (E) Detroit MI 109.02 Aud MC (mimymu-Drew51-flambay). A-/B+
1980 11 28 (E) Chicago IL 109.57 AUD MC (analog414-Drew51-flambay). A/A-

1981 10 07 Las Vegas NV 115.51 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-The Evil Prince). A-
1981 10 09 (E) Tucson AZ 87.17 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-flambay). A/A-
1981 10 11 Albuquerque NM 122.19 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-The Evil Prince). B+
1981 10 18 Austin TX 107.48 AUD (BobM-drzap-Drew51-flambay). B+
1981 10 25 Atlanta GA 112.51 AUD (BobM-drzap-flambay). B+
1981 10 29 Palladium NYC 127.52 AUD MC (fzmoi69-ADtull-Yojimbo-flambay). A/A- (a different version was used as a ZTLS [#250] 10 years ago.)
1981 11 01 Palladium NYC 161.24 AUD 1st (hoosac92-CR-pbuzby-flambay). B+
1981 11 09 Toronto Canada 123.23 Aud (Hoosac92-Kristoftof). B+
1981 11 13 Syracuse NY 143.44 AUD MC (K-mycroftxxx-Drew51-flambay). A-/B+
1981 11 27 (E) Chicago IL 116.15 AUD MC (analog414-JS-doctorzap-Drew51-WIU2B) source #1. A/A-
1981 11 27 (L) Chicago IL 105.09 AUD MC (analog414-JS-doctorzap-WIU2B) source #1. A/A-

1982 05 15 Rotterdam NL 138.36 Aud (walk-WIU2B-fl). B+/B
1982 05 29 Frejus FR 119.28 Aud 2nd gen (Yojimbo-Kristoftof). A- (has been a ZTLS [#274] but not for 10 years.)
1982 05 30 Cap d'Agde FR 109.53 Aud (Yojimbo). B+
1982 06 05 Schuettorf DE 101.33 AUD (arcorman-Pittylabelle-fl-cbfz-walk Source #2). A+/B+
1982 06 11 (L) Frankfurt DE 127.00 Aud (drew51-YJ-fl). A-/B+ (has been a ZTLS [#259] but not for 10 years.)
1982 06 13 Wurzburg DE 110.30 Aud (Drew51-flambay). A-/B+ (has been a ZTLS [#297] but not for 10 years.)
1982 07 03 Bolzano IT 139.44 Aud (walk-fl). A-/B+ (has been a ZTLS [#213] but not for 11 years.)
1982 07 12 Napoli IT 134.13 Aud (UMRU-walk-fl). A-/B+

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Post 2017-02-24 12:18   [Quote] 
Excellent work, thank you!!!

Earlier today I did choose 1979 03 06 Gothenburg SE 120.27 AUD 1st (SH-Drew51-flambay) as Sunday's session Wink
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Post 2017-02-24 17:45   [Quote] 
Thanks Fobby,

Earlier today I chose what beer I will be drinking during Sunday's show.

And as always, newcomers (and oldcomers) are always welcome to join the party.

(I joined 10 years ago and still havent left.)

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Post 2017-02-24 20:03   [Quote] 
Thanks FOB! bravo

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Post 2017-02-25 10:58   [Quote] 
Smile .
Ob wrote:
...And as always, newcomers (and oldcomers) are always welcome to join the party.
I tried to get into the chat room about 5 years ago but I think I was wearing trainers......
I did have quite a few attempts at joining but, despite the best efforts of mycroftxxx who tried to help me, I just wasn't successful.... in the end I gave up. (I'm that terrible combination of someone who has pretty old equipment and doesn't know what they're doing... )
I try to be there in spirit by listening to the appropriate show on a Sunday evening, it's definitely a good way to make sure I find time to listen to some of these shows.

I'm glad the list looks like it may be useful, I'll get on to the last couple of tours and add the results here when they're done.

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Post 2017-02-26 03:18   [Quote] 
father-0blivion wrote:

I'm that terrible combination of someone who has pretty old equipment and doesn't know what they're doing...


X2!!! Smile

Congrats for the research thumbsup

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father-0blivion wrote:
I tried to get into the chat room about 5 years ago but...

Have you tried the link since? It (usually) works without any need for black magic or a specific version of Java to be installed these days.
You don't even have to remember your own name if you are happy to be called webbie! Rolling Eyes

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Post 2017-02-26 09:28   [Quote] 
TPS wrote:
father-0blivion wrote:
I tried to get into the chat room about 5 years ago but...

Have you tried the link since? It (usually) works without any need for black magic or a specific version of Java to be installed these days.
You don't even have to remember your own name if you are happy to be called webbie! Rolling Eyes

Wow! I seem to be in! I'm called ''Webbie3974''. I've typed a small message...

uncle max wrote:
father-0blivion wrote:
...someone who has pretty old equipment and doesn't know what they're doing...
X2!!!

Well.... that's what my wife says anyway........ Shocked disbelief

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Great work, FOB!
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Post 2017-02-26 17:01   [Quote] 
WOW! Thanks a ton, FOB! It can indeed be quite difficult to pick a show sometimes. Your list looks great.
bravo

Just gonna move this thread into the appropriate forum...

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Post 2017-02-26 17:02  
MsPinky doesnt like this Topic in forum Speakers Corner she moved it to forum Listening Session Suggestions & Comments

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Post 2017-02-27 06:49   [Quote] 
NotPedro wrote:
...Just gonna move this thread into the appropriate forum...

Thanks NP.

And thanks to TPS I managed to get into the chat room.... unfortunately that was as far as I got.... I spent a good hour or so lurking as ''Webbie someone'' and then buggered off.... I just couldn't get a message to load. I tried my enter key, I tried uploading to a P(aste)B.in or something, and I tried the 'send file' icon with an 'up' arrow on it.... not a sausage.... Can someone tell me what I was doing wrong please? (lurking was good though...although it was a bit frustrating when people were saying ''hi webbie'' and I couldn't reply...)

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father-0blivion wrote:
I managed to get into the chat room.... unfortunately that was as far as I got.... I spent a good hour or so lurking as ''Webbie someone'' and then buggered off.... I just couldn't get a message to load. I tried my enter key, I tried uploading to a P(aste)B.in or something, and I tried the 'send file' icon with an 'up' arrow on it.... not a sausage.... Can someone tell me what I was doing wrong please? (lurking was good though...although it was a bit frustrating when people were saying ''hi webbie'' and I couldn't reply...)

Once you join, you need a chat room Op to give you a voice to be able to reply, and it is not manned 24/7! During the ZTLS is the best time to drop by. Changing Webbie to FOB will help us know it is you, and not some predator trying to groom me Wink

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Post 2017-02-27 11:00   [Quote] 
TPS wrote:
.... Changing Webbie to FOB will help us know it is you, and not some predator trying to groom me Wink
It might be both... Wink , but enough of that...

Thanks TPS!, I got a bit confused and at one point I thought I'd won the African State Lottery but then I realised I was waaay off course.... I shall definitely give it another go next week!
(I did notice that Galeans was a Webbie for a while but then changed to his proper nick but I wasn't sure how that happened.)

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Post 2017-02-27 11:39   [Quote] 
father-0blivion wrote:
Thanks TPS!, I got a bit confused and at one point I thought I'd won the African State Lottery but then I realised I was waaay off course....

I read you won an Oscar instead.

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