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1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL 164.31 AUD (Robsam-Doctorzap-Hoosac92-Kristoftof-Maclen-Galeans)
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Post 2015-07-30 00:08   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention
The Ahoy
Rotterdam
Netherlands

1971 11 27


~~ Complete show from three sources ~~

Current FZshows entry:
1971 11 27 - The Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
160 min, Aud, B-
Zanti Serenade, Call Any Vegetable, Anyway The Wind Blows, Magdalena, Dog Breath, Divan, A Pound For A Brown, Sleeping In A Jar, Wonderful Wino, Sharleena, Cruising For Burgers, Peaches En Regalia, Tears Began To Fall, Shove It Right In, Billy The Mountain (incl. The Tibetan Memory Trick), 200 Motels Finale, I Wanna Hold Your Hand, Who Are The Brain Police?


This copy: 164.31 min, Aud, B+/B/B- Compiled from three different sources

Source 1: 158.03, Aud, B- (parts B, parts C+)
Lineage: Hoosac92 (??gen, but very low ) Maxell XLII 1997 tapes > Pioneer CtW 504R > Avance AC97soundcard > CoolEdit retracking, level adjust & speed correction > flac frontend level 8 > SF10 (editing, volume adjusted) > wav > FLAC
Taped by: unknown
Collected by: Hoosac92
Transferred by: Kristoftof
Edited By: Kristoftof, Galeans


Source 2: 136.30, Aud, B+/B
Lineage : Maxell XLII Low gen > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither > TLH > SF10 (editing, volume adjusted) > wav > FLAC
Taped by: unknown
Collected by: Robsam
Transferred by: Doctorzap
Edited By: Galeans


Source 3: 39.18, Aud, B+
Lineage : AIWA Turntable > Original "Live in Amsterdam 1971" bootleg vinyl > Audiocleanic (no noise reduction) > FLAC > SF10 (editing, volume adjusted) > wav > FLAC
Taped by: unknown
Original bootleg LP transferred by: Maclen
Edited By: Galeans


Patched together by: Galeans

== The Mothers Of Invention, August - December 1971 ==

FZ, Mark Volman, Howard Kaylan, Jim Pons, Ian Underwood, Don Preston, Aynsley Dunbar.

Setlist:

01 Zanti Serenade [07:00] °°° start with source 1
02 Call Any Vegetable [11:29]
03 Anyway The Wind Blows [03:51]
04 Magdalena [05:46] °°° switch to source 2, 0:15
05 Dog Breath [04:58]
06 Tuning & preamble [03:40] °°° switch to source 3, 2:57-3:35
07 Divan [20:06] °°° fill from source 2, 0:00-2; switch back to source 2, 19:54
08 A Pound For A Brown [06:54]
09 Sleeping In A Jar [02:27] °°° switch to source 1, 2:21
10 Wonderful Wino [05:09] °°° switch back to source 2, 1:16
11 Sharleena [05:26]
12 Cruising for Burgers [03:13] °°° cuts out, intermission, no music missing
13 Tuning [04:08]
14 Peaches En Regalia [03:21] °°° switch to source 3, 0:02; fill from source 2, 2:43-53
15 Tears Began To Fall [02:37]
16 Shove It Right In [06:32] °°° switch back to source 2, 6:18
17 Billy The Mountain preamble [01:34]
18 Billy The Mountain [52:21] °°° fills from source 1: 15:36-7, 16:13-5, 16:27-30, 34:12-36:20; switch to source 1, 52:12
19 Encore break & Preamble [02:24] °°° switch back to source 2, 1:33
20 200 Motels Finale [03:39]
21 I Wanna Hold Your Hand [01:37]
22 Who Are The Brain Police? [06:18] °°° switch to source 3, 0:01

Total time: 164.31 min

This is a monster show that got somehow overlooked, probably because of the low sound quality rating in FZShows. This is one of my favorite Zappa shows, so I decided to investigate a little bit about it and it turns out that we have not one, but three sources of it. The most commonly circulating one was first seeded by Kristoftof in April 2007, digitalized from Hoosac92's tapes. It is the most complete source, but also the one with the lowest quality, really boomy: parts are listenable, but others are overblown. In January 2012, Doctorzap seeded a second source from Robsam's tapes, which misses the first three songs, but, in spite of some hiss and waving between channels, has a better sound quality all around and also contains different tape flip spots, so everything that is lost on source #1 is preserved here. Famously, a 40 minute segment of this concert was pressed in a lot of bootlegs over time: "In Europe", "Poot Face Boogie", "Live in Amsterdam 1971" (a mistitle) and "The Dream Machine". This is a third source, the better sounding of them all: very clear and upfront, a very high B+ that could be an A- if it wasn't for some distortion problems. Unfortunately, outside of those pressed bootlegs, this source doesn't seem to have ever surfaced anywhere in any tape collection. The first bootlegs of this recording were pressed very early, in late 1971/early 1972, so it's possible that the complete tape was never traded and is now lost or discarded: let's hope not! The better sounding of these bootlegs is the erroneously titled "Live in Amsterdam 1971". I decided to create a version of this marvelous concert combining the three sources in order to have the longest and best sounding version possible of each track. There is now no material lost in the tape flips, except maybe a little bit of tuning up before the start of track #13. Note that the "Live in Amsterdam 1971" seed on the tracker comes from CDRs of Maclen's original transfer, but it's not the case for the material used here: Maclen himself kindly sent me his original files. The original vinyl, albeit very good sounding, was a bit unbalanced between the two channels, so I tried to do my best to correct that. For a show long like this doing subfolders would result in an incredibly big torrent, but unpatched versions of source #1 and #3 are already available on the tracker. Source #2 is, at the moment of this writing, only available as a shoebox seed, but I will seed a proper unpatched version on FZShows in a couple of days, for the purists. All sources have been checked and are running at the correct speed.

This is the longest show of the tour and an amazing one, undoubtedly my favorite: it contains everything I love from this tour (except for a juicy "King Kong" but, goddamnit, it's already close to three hours long!). The setlist is fantastic and so are the performances: every band member gets a chance to shine. There are so many highlights that I'm tempted to just tell you to sit down and listen the show, but I'll try: a great performance of the "Divan" suite (with some variations in Dutch), a lively "String Quartet", fantastic vocal duties in "Shove it Right In", "Magdalena" and "Anyway the Wind Blows", an odd performance of the already weird "Zanti Serenade" and, above all, the solo section of "Billy The Mountain", in which even Dunbar gets to play a drum solo: FZ's soloing in that is very weird and unusual, it almost sounds like a prototype of his Winter 1978 "Yo Mama" solos. Other great FZ madness is included all around the show. And what a better choice for an encore than The Beatles' "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"? "Who Are The Brain Police?" is no slouch either. This version was a bit of a bitch to edit (hours on "Billy the Mountain" correcting glitches and working on the patches, while hoping the program would not crash before I save), but I'm glad I did it: I'm blasting the results as I'm writing and I love it. I hope you will too. This is an amazing show. Enjoy!!!

"Billy the Mountain" is very long, but unless I have to include "unpatched tracks" folders, personally, I prefer to keep this kind of pieces in only one file, so I decided against splitting it. If you only want to listen to the "Studebaker Hotch" section it starts at 23:18".

Credits:

Thanks to the unknown tapers!
Thanks to Hoosac92 and Robsam for collecting the tapes!
Thanks to Kristoftof and Doctorzap for transferring them!
Thanks to Maclen for a good transfer of the "Live in Amsterdam" vinyl bootleg!

Enjoy !!

Brought to you by Hoosac92, Robsam, Maclen, Kristoftof, Doctorzap, Galeans.
Dedicated to Youngpumkin, who attended this show.

www.zappateers.com/bb - July 2015

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other source seeds:

Aud source #1: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8855
Aud source #2 (shoebox): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=23484
Aud source #3 (Live in Amsterdam bootleg): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4323

ffp:
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 01 Zanti Serenade.flac:7deb291209da7f58dec19b41b0b3117c
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 02 Call Any Vegetable.flac:4fd72ffaf82a1e1dbc9d5ae1b5e20285
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 03 Anyway The Wind Blows.flac:29dc70c23361624f1955896c3950e8b7
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 04 Magdalena.flac:22d0b9eba68d29fb22b70cd3bac5630c
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 05 Dog Breath.flac:367a979300ba19f05a87534d8dc24b54
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 06 Tuning & preamble.flac:5bdd0767e223b2b081a826171c0f1c75
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 07 Divan.flac:d7670622cdac93829f8717df43f0ccdb
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 08 A Pound for a Brown.flac:13f145e9fc1dfab3ce2552a10f4e8623
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 09 Sleeping in a Jar.flac:db14362de9d0f66e906917a9895ef7dc
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 10 Wonderful Wino.flac:90eab73fd4330005543bba9bda1040e6
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 11 Sharleena.flac:acf53f20defcca1fc897c37110c34dfc
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 12 Cruising for Burgers.flac:fab228d6e711a4bffbc38458920c12a8
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 13 Tuning.flac:bd900c4d9a24ec9cc81ee30c2a970451
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 14 Peaches En Regalia.flac:77bae3312e535f69750d2ecb692af5ed
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 15 Tears Began to Fall.flac:634ee7c893402e82ba4fc4a21a8645c4
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 16 Shove It Right In.flac:2dfc2b56a0eb254cd630a4aa053367ff
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 17 Billy The Mountain preamble.flac:77226b1240c8df21d134cecb6ebc6e43
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 18 Billy The Mountain.flac:5b6b5caacbb7169c75600450ff2c1cee
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 19 Encore break & Preamble.flac:dc3fd938556b31cd38c2109a387df20b
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 20 200 Motels Finale.flac:b5173a5abd8e8e34d331f59e983dfba6
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 21 I Wanna Hold Your Hand.flac:22796e0d9e7d32f5cabb69353efa7b3b
1971 11 27 Rotterdam NL - 22 Who Are The Brain Police.flac:4c264bba89aadafa8b503a02a474748a

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Post 2015-07-30 01:31   [Quote] 
Bedankt voor de vloerbedekking!
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Post 2015-07-30 04:28   [Quote] 
Grazie, io possiedo il bootleg "Live in Amsterdam 1971" e sarà un piacere ascoltare il concerto completo!

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Post 2015-07-30 10:04   [Quote] 
Thank you very much for sharing.
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Post 2015-07-30 12:17   [Quote] 
I was at this great show
It was really " I N C R E D I B L E "
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many thanks
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Post 2015-07-30 16:06   [Quote] 
Geef mij wat vloerbedekking..... yes that's right.
Well, here we have it. Right under the zwevende sofa, at Zappateers.

Btw listen to the beginning of the 1988 05 03 show where Zappa refers to vloerbedekking.

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164minutes headhammer

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This looks great, thanks !
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Post 2015-07-30 23:15   [Quote] 
Thanks. It has been a while since I listened to anything from the Flo & Eddie period, so I may give this show a shot.
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Post 2015-07-30 23:17   [Quote] 
Thanks to the original contributors of this show and to Dr. Frankenstein, I mean Galeans, for patching this monster together. Very Happy
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Very nice! Thank you! blues
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Thank you for all your hard work!
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