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1973 09 11 Liverpool UK 76.48 AUD (M-Walk-Flambay-Galeans)
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Post 2015-07-26 13:53   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention
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Liverpool
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1973 09 11


~~ Unknown generation tape ~~

Current FZshows entry:
1973 09 11 - Liverpool Stadium, Liverpool, UK
75 min, Aud, B/B-
Brown Shoes Don't Make It, Cosmik Debris, Village Of The Sun, Echidna's Arf, Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?, Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue, Kung Fu, Penguin In Bondage, Dog Meat, RDNZL, T'Mershi Duween, Willie The Pimp (q: Big Swifty), King Kong, Mr Green Genes, Be-Bop Tango excerpt


This copy: 76.48 min, Aud, B+ (some thumping noise on right channel noticeable on quiet sections)

Lineage: AUD > ? > cass/? > A/D nakamichi/UA-5 USB > wav Audition 1.5 (speedcorrected & tracked only) > shntool > flac frontend (lvl 7, SBE aligned) > SF10 (speed corrected, edited, balance between channels adjusted) > wav > FLAC

Taped by: unknown
Transferred by: Walk
Speed corrected by: Flambay, Galeans
Edited by: Walk, Galeans

== The Mothers Of Invention, February - September 1973 ==

FZ, Jean Luc Ponty, Tom Fowler, Ralph Humphrey, Ruth Underwood, Ian Underwood, George Duke, Bruce Fowler.

Setlist:

01 Preamble & tuning [00:52]
02 Brown Shoes Don't Make It [07:25]
03 Preamble [01:56]
04 Cosmik Debris [12:07]
05 Preamble & tuning [01:05]
06 Village of the Sun [04:56]
07 Echidna's Arf (of you) [04:09]
08 Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? [09:29] °°° flaws 7:42-56
09 Tuning [00:34] °°° cuts in, no music missing
10 The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue [01:02]
11 Kung Fu [01:00] °°° tape flip 0:14, music missing, flaws
12 Penguin in Bondage [06:40]
13 Dog Meat [06:54]
14 RDNZL [04:23]
15 Preamble [02:14]
16 T'Mershi Duween [02:32]
17 Willie The Pimp [03:58]
18 King Kong/Son of Mr. Green Genes [04:31] °°° flaws 3:08-11
19 Be-Bop Tango [01:03]

A show that has been MIA for a while, finally being seeded according to Zappateers standards. FZShows has this as a B/B- and Walk seeded a copy (the one used as a basis for this seed) that he marked as a B-/C+. However, many of us agree that this is in fact a very nice recording, with a good balance and stereo image! It’s a bit too dark, maybe, and it does have some mechanical thumping noise on the right channel that is audible on the quiet sections, but still very enjoyable. For years samples of this copy have languished in the Sample sections, with only Kristoftof providing another source, deemed inferior. DLHotch finally reseeded Walk's original seed in the Shoebox in November 2014. No other superior copy has surfaced so far, so we have decided to present a speed corrected version of that version. No attempts on removing the thumping noise have been made: it is only very noticeable in the quiet sections (for example during preambles…) and unlike it has been suggested, this recording is not mono, so throwing away one channel means erasing some important sonic information. No patches available for the tape flip and the flaws.

This is a quite good show, with many great solo by FZ, Ponty and Duke. There are a couple of interesting things happening: "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" unexpectedly opens the show, this is the first tape containing "Penguin in Bondage" with a guitar solo, there's an interesting (and hilariously substandard) early version of "T'Mershi Duween", a rare outing for this tour of "Willie The Pimp" and an interesting show ending with a "Be-Bop Tango" excerpt. It's also interesting to note that "Echidna's Arf" is introduced as "Excentrifugal Forz". Excellent versions of "Cosmik Debris", "Don't You Ever Wash That Thing", "Dog Meat" and "RDNZL". Get this, there won't be regrets.

Credits:

Thanks to the unknown taper!
Thanks to Walk for first seeding this!
Thanks to DLHotch for a shoebok seed!
Thanks to Flambay for giving speed correction values and taking care of the most difficult parts!

Enjoy !!

Brought to you by Walk, Galeans and Flambay

www.zappateers.com/bb - July 2015

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Samples (swedBeestick): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=13027
Samples (ImGoingUnder): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=13060
Samples (Galeans): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=29718
Shoebox seed of walk original by DLHotch: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=28862

ffp:
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 01 Preamble & tuning.flac:6c0dd406a7dd6a1705f93ce9ffecd076
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 02 Brown Shoes Don't Make It.flac:1530a7c818b471f46eb7926cbff5505b
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 03 Preamble.flac:fb60e2ac8a037b8a794a927cce3e3feb
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 04 Cosmik Debris.flac:42c0fff42c1935bcdfa43347f0919723
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 05 Preamble & tuning.flac:d7e228deb1d654b863064ba872269d5a
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 06 Village of the Sun.flac:918ffaa6f80ec1543d74fd48ff77e454
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 07 Echidna's Arf (of you).flac:42a8e30af0f1823f1ed75abdea740423
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 08 Don't You Ever Wash That Thing.flac:5f8c07801217f30508eda6e218996c5e
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 09 Tuning.flac:f853c7a89a6b26e9eafed0715b4c3140
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 10 The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue.flac:1f308fab34258ecef8ca969c62276d65
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 11 Kung Fu.flac:16980ce153ae91dd05b1124efbc40f0e
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 12 Penguin in Bondage.flac:228bf31bd70b75151b6cc472e12d895e
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 13 Dog Meat.flac:e7ba1394afa266cc4d5688b629e5fc5d
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 14 RDNZL.flac:b24fb91d82c1c393d3df6a7ec30f555a
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 15 Preamble.flac:3c5c7fd259838310f358451a55695b06
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 16 T'Mershi Duween.flac:988119a831d996d9d7710c8cf3069270
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 17 Willie The Pimp.flac:d44e5f01eb1f12dfb7cdb13d3f0c50a5
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 18 Son Of Mr. Green Genes medley.flac:1c76b479711e30e7450d3c2d56951518
1973 09 11 Liverpool UK - 19 Be-Bop Tango.flac:9fd5db464b85f92fc5a69c5559553f09

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Post 2015-07-26 14:00   [Quote] 
Many thanks Galeans for your work here and the rest of the members involved in this seed.
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Post 2015-07-26 14:15   [Quote] 
Thank you very much!!

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Post 2015-07-26 14:20   [Quote] 
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Post 2015-07-26 14:42   [Quote] 
Grazie mille M-Walk-Flambay-Galeans! Smile
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Post 2015-07-26 15:00   [Quote] 
Great to see this one back up in proper form. tunes

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Post 2015-07-26 15:01   [Quote] 
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It's also interesting to note that "Echidna's Arf" is introduced as "Excentrifugal Forz".


If I recall right, FZ would still introduce it with that title as late as March 74.
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Post 2015-07-26 15:21   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
If I recall right, FZ would still introduce it with that title as late as March 74.


I see that there are existing logs that indicate that a studio cut called "Excentrifugal Forz" was recorded 20 March 1973 during the "Overnate Sensation" sessions, the same day "Montana" was recorded. I guess this means there's an unreleased studio version of "Echidna's Arf". I'd sure love to hear it.

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Post 2015-07-26 15:51   [Quote] 
you advertise it so nice - I´ll grap it at least for the soli. dazzler1

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Post 2015-07-26 17:46   [Quote] 
Galeans wrote:
pbuzby wrote:
If I recall right, FZ would still introduce it with that title as late as March 74.


I see that there are existing logs that indicate that a studio cut called "Excentrifugal Forz" was recorded 20 March 1973 during the "Overnate Sensation" sessions, the same day "Montana" was recorded. I guess this means there's an unreleased studio version of "Echidna's Arf". I'd sure love to hear it.



Although it may be that the track was never finished or that FZ worked on the track from Apostrophe that day, yes, a vault release from those sessions could be very interesting.
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Post 2015-07-26 18:39   [Quote] 
Thank you all involved for this fine seed Very Happy
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Post 2015-07-26 21:42   [Quote] 
Thank you very much, I've never heard this show. Because of the poor sound rating, I never considered this one, and just skipped it. The comments from Galeans convinced me.... ah just got the message download completed. Grazie!
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Post 2015-07-27 07:05   [Quote] 
GRAZIE MILLE !!!!!!

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