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1980 ~ 1978 Build Reel 30.49 (Snopes-Drew51-Flambay-pbuzby)
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Post 2012-06-04 01:23   [Quote] 
Very, very nice! Again big thanx to Snopes, Drew51, flambay and pbusby for this recording!!! Right on, man!
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Post 2012-06-04 07:57   [Quote] 
that was fantastic, cheers
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Post 2012-06-04 08:04   [Quote] 
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Post 2012-06-04 09:16   [Quote] 
If you listen to the "fuck" in The Dangerous Kitchen, you can still hear keyboard during the the excised word. It is a tad crude since the keyboard jumps in volume. Still...i vote for FZ edit.
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Post 2012-06-04 14:06   [Quote] 
I was a bit surprised to find that "blow job" got the ax along with the four letter words.
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Post 2012-06-04 14:42   [Quote] 
This is a very interesting tape. Thanks a lot Smile

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Post 2012-06-04 16:17   [Quote] 
Excellent stuff,thankyou.

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Post 2012-06-04 18:27   [Quote] 
Thank you, I love outtakes Smile
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Post 2012-06-04 22:09   [Quote] 
vivalapsych wrote:
If you listen to the "fuck" in The Dangerous Kitchen, you can still hear keyboard during the the excised word. It is a tad crude since the keyboard jumps in volume. Still...i vote for FZ edit.

I disagree. The edits are ridiculously awkward and often manage to ruin the meaning of the lyrics ("...the other one was a walking--"). Unless he was unreallistically pressed for time, I think FZ would have at least inserted some kind of illustrative noise to show that there should have been a word there. I don't think he would even consider delivering such a crude product.

BTW, did I say thanks? Thanks!

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Post 2012-06-04 22:36   [Quote] 
I do think it is from radio, and LP sides for radio shows was common. I have many interview segments from DJ promo only vinyl. So a request to limit length may have been made. But the crude edits are still a mystery as most radio shows do a damned fine editing job. They usually use engineers too, unless some DJ did this, and may very well have.
I have other build reels too, but all are of released material, or we have better examples already. I suppose I should look closer at them.
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Post 2012-06-04 22:38   [Quote] 
vivalapsych wrote:
If you listen to the "fuck" in The Dangerous Kitchen, you can still hear keyboard during the the excised word. It is a tad crude since the keyboard jumps in volume. Still...i vote for FZ edit.


No no no. There is a "boingy" sound effect added in those spots. It's not keyboard. Other curse words are chopped out completely.
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Post 2012-06-04 22:46   [Quote] 
IMO there are equally crude edits in Chalk Pie, the Un-Concert, Warts & All and other unofficial stuff. In the official releases FZ usually tried for more polish but even there some abrupt cuts got through now and then.

Around this same time there was the King Biscuit hour from Munich 1980, also with some censorship.
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Post 2012-06-04 23:24   [Quote] 
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IMO there are equally crude edits in Chalk Pie, the Un-Concert, Warts & All and other unofficial stuff


Yes, good point! Btw Chalk Pie is also in the Hecht collection. The one we have is darn good though.
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Post 2012-06-05 16:59   [Quote] 
The Torture solo sounds chopped up to me leading me to think even that suffered some lackadaisacal tape editing. Either way the whole tape is a bit of revelation. I was collecting tapes and cds around the turn of the Century and never got into these outtakes and unreleased sides. Thanks to Drew for collecting this and everyone else for processing these goodies for release. Not to mention everyone who seeded and leeched it and the band for playing it. Viva Zappa!!!!
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Post 2012-06-05 17:36   [Quote] 
There are edits in both the Tiny Lights solo and the Torture solo. Again this was typical for FZ though.
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