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Woolsey Hall - Yale Univ.- New Haven CT - Feb. 13, 1969 - Unlisted show - Vs Official Releases  
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Al Fresco
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Post 2011-11-08 11:05   [Quote] 
Its has been already reported to CU.

http://members.shaw.ca/fz-pomd/giglist/1969.html

Yale Daily News Smile

Ad & pic

Confirmed gig review & pics

Probably the date is wrong in the official releases where appears: Feb. 13, 1969 - The Factory - The Bronx, NYC

"Get A Little" - WRMF
"Plastic People" - YCDTOSA#1
"Tiny Sick Tears" - YCDTOSA#4
"Where Is Johnny Velvet?"- YCDTOSA#5
"Return Of The Hunch-Back Duke" - idem
"Trouble Every Day" - idem

Liner notes:

YCDTOSA#1
"The spring tour of 1969 was a bus tour. It was cold and miserable. Many of the venues were performning in were small and "unfashionable". This rare recording fins the Mothers playing a bar in The Bronx, for an audience that probably would have preferred The Vanilla Fudge".

YCDTOSA#5
"This was, unfortunately, our only opportunity to perform in The Bronx. Considering our repertoire at the time, contrasted with what was on the radio as "good music", we found this night club audience to be fairly receptive. There is another cut from this show on YCDTOSA Volume Four."

Unreleased: "The Artisan Acetate"
"The Cookie Jar Lecture" : http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=18544

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Official releases The test pressing features a unique redacted edit of Tiny Sick Tears on YCDTOSA 4, with three lines of lyrics edited out (0:08-0:20 of the CD) and a redacted ending, omitting the last 1:10 (3:20-4:30) of the CD edit. At the end we hear the same radio power switch and laughter that ends The Orange County Lumber Truck on Weasels Ripped My Flesh, which then segues, like Weasels, into the album-ending Weasels title track (here titled It Must Be Your Breath). The radio power switch sound is in fact the same as the sound on the original Weasels LP; digital reverb added to the CD and Old Masters LP causes reverb from the musical portion of Orange County Lumber Truck to overlap the radio switch, and thus alter its sound; the original LP mix is a better basis for comparison.
Source 13 February 1969, The Factory, The Bronx, New York City."

So the question is when they performed in Feb. 69 at The Factory, The Bronx, NYC.
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Post 2011-11-09 01:10   [Quote] 
Nice find Al Fresco. Very interesting.

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So the question is when they performed in Feb. 69 at The Factory, The Bronx, NYC.


Well, there are some open dates between confirmed 2/16 & 2/21 that would seem a likely fit.
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Post 2011-11-09 01:20   [Quote] 
Since the Yale concert started at 8 according to the ad, one slight possibility is that they played there and then did a late night appearance at the Factory later on the 13th.

But yes, it is also quite likely that they played the Factory in one of the open dates Overnite Freak mentioned and that FZ had the date wrong on those late 80's releases.
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Post 2011-11-09 01:24   [Quote] 
BTW, I can't find anything online about the Factory, unless it is the Andy Warhol studio mentioned here which doesn't seem very likely. (Some other references online to going to rock shows in the 60's at "the Factory" seem to be referring to Electric Factory in Philadelphia.)
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Post 2011-11-09 04:15   [Quote] 
I found a couple of references by Bronx residents to the fact that the same club had been known as The Factory and as Fantasy East. The name change must have taken place between February 1969 (when the MOI played The Factory) and October 1969 (when Dr. John played Fantasy East).

The club was located at 4653 White Plains Rd. at 241st St.
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Post 2011-11-10 02:28   [Quote] 
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FZ had the date wrong on those late 80's releases.


He certainly was known to do just that on many listings in the YCDTOSA series.
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Post 2012-07-29 19:19   [Quote] 
I found this recording session contract where confirms that "Get A Little" was recorded on Feb. 28, 1969 at The Factory-NYC. Smile

I dont know if arrives late for a new official reissue at least on vinyl with the right information within... Wink


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Post 2012-08-01 03:00   [Quote] 
Nice detective work as always!
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Post 2012-08-01 04:33   [Quote] 
Wow! Any more contracts like this that confirm uncertain dates?
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