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1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA 91.36 AUD (RobSam-doctorzap-Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc)
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mudsharknyc
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Post 2011-10-21 20:40   [Quote] 
1980 12 05 (E)
Frank Zappa
Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA

AUD (RobSam-doctorzap-Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc)

Arrow ALTERNATE VERSION NOTICE : This FZ Shows entry provides an essential and entirely different listening experience from the already excellent Drew51-flambay-mudshark entry found here:
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA 92.13 AUD 1st (Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc)
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22568

Arrow HOW SO? : This alternate version provides a fascinating example of how the same show from the same source tape (Jeff Allan) can sound so drastically different, but still offer excellent definition and sound quality while also deviating from one another with sonic distinctions so far & wide. Of first relative mention, the Left & Right channels are swapped, hence different between the two FZ Shows entries. Who knows, exactly how that happened. Both versions are from very low generation tapes. The superb overall SQ between the two justify having 2 separate FZ Shows entries, as you will soon experience. This one being better defined in the upper frequencies and the Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc being better defined in the lower frequencies.

For those interested, the Samples & Fills thread can be found here:
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA AUD Samples
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22431

PREAMBLE: FZ & the 1980 Fall Tour Band perform their first set of California shows on this date and this Early show debut serves up a truly great performance from the 1980 Fall Touring schedule. In fact, this show is so good, several performances and excerpts from this show have found their way onto TR, SUNPYG & YCDTOSA #6, much like the Late show which can be found here:

1980 12 05 (L) Berkeley CA 130.21 AUD (Drew51-flambay-RobSam-doctorzap)
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22547
and here:
1980 12 05 (L) Berkeley CA 129.55 AUD (RobSam-doctorzap-Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc) ZTLS #492
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22467

SOURCE INFORMATION: The main body of this excellent audience capture is from a very low generation recording, taped by Jeff Allan. This particular tape was generously contributed by RobSam and professionally transferred via NAK by doctorzap. The original Shoebox entry can be found here:
1980 12 05 - Community Theater, Berkeley, CA E (RobSam doctorzap)
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22416

LINEAGE: Maxell XLII low gen > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 24/96 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope MBIT+dither,64 bit src downsampling > TLH > Shoebox FLACíd > WAV > PEAK > Speed Corrected > Tracked & Patched > FLAC (level 8)

PATCH SOURCE INFORMATION: A 3rd generation audience recording, taper unknown, transferred by Drew51 with tracking and edits from original FZ Shows entry by Drew51 & flambay. Taper equipment: Unknown

PATCH LINEAGE: Maxell II Cassettes>Gina20>Sound Forge (record/edits)>CDWave >Soundforge 5: speed corr., volume level adjust, edit patches to main body > Left & Right Channels swapped to match patch this version

THIS COPY: 91.36 min, AUD, A (main source) / B+ (patch source)

THE BAND:
FZ, Ike Willis, Steve Vai, Ray White, Arthur Barrow, Vinnie Colaiuta, Tommy Mars, Bob Harris #2.

THE SHOW:
01 Berkeley Tune Up (0:24)
- slight fade in applied to the very beginning of the audience tape
02 Chungaís Revenge (5:39)
- includes Pinochioís Furniture/SUNPYG
03 Panty Rap (3:43)
04 You Are What You Is (3:52)
05 Love Of My Life (2:15)
- TR
06 Flakes (4:33)
07 Magic Fingers (2:20)
08 The Blue Light (4:57)
- parts on TR
09 Tinseltown Rebellion (4:51)
- parts on TR
10 Pick Me Iím Clean (10:31)
- parts on TR
- tape flip cut patched from Drew51-flambay source 00:06:49.429- 00:07:07.860
11 Honey Donít You Want A Man Like Me (4:12)
- tape sides duplicate edit occurs @ 00:03:59.113, no music missing
12 Mudd Club (2:42)
13 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing (3:14)
14 Suicide Chump (6:31)
15 Jumbo Go Away (3:45)
16 If Only She Woulda (6:40)
17 Drafted Again (2:56)
- audience fade approximately 7 seconds after song ends, no music missing
- audience patch from Drew51-flambay source @ 00:02:49.578 through fade out
18 Encore Tune Up (1:13)
- audience fade in to FZ encore preamble
- patch from Drew51-flambay source 00:00:00.000 through 00:00:39.822
19 Bobby Brown (3:01)
20 Ms Pinky (4:31)
- audience fades approximately 8 seconds after song ends, no music missing
21 Easy Meat (9:36)
- audience cuts in to FZ Easy Meat preamble, no music missing
- audience fade out applied to end, no music missing

Total time 91:36 min

THE FIXES HEREIN:
Speed correction of -10 cents to the RobSam-doctorzap source for the entire show.
Speed correction of +10 cents to the Drew51-flambay patch source.
All patch edits performed where listed in setlist.

SUBFOLDER INCLUDED HEREIN:
unpatched
(sound files are interchangeable with the main FZ Shows entry)
10 Pick Me Iím Clean (unpatched) (10:14)
- untouched with tape flip cut @ 00:06:50.300 during guitar solo
16 Drafted Again (unpatched) (2:50)
- untouched tape cut at end audience as it appears on RobSam-doctorzap tape, no music missing
18/19 Encore Tune Up Bobby Brown
- untouched tape cut in from the encore audience as it appears on RobSam-doctorzap tape continuing onward through the entire song of Bobby Brown

CREDITS:
Thanks to FZ & the 1980 Fall Tour Band for an amazing performance
Thanks to the original tapers; Jeff Allan & unknown for the great captures
Thanks to RobSam for the main source tape contribution
Thanks to doctorzap for the NAK transfer & Shoebox entry
Thanks to Drew51 for the patch source tape & transfer from Drew's ZRP archives
Thanks to flambay for the speed correction advice
Speed correction, patching, editing & tracking by mudsharknyc

Enjoy !!

-- mudsharknyc

www.zappateers.com/bb - October 2011

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1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 07 Magic Fingers.flac:374b562e0913492aa525ac6b00edaba4
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 08 The Blue Light.flac:7fbd2b466d61cf06af95f6fec31f4c24
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 09 Tinseltown Rebellion.flac:1e0f403f2829ea5e22f2431e78741b91
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 10 Pick Me I'm Clean.flac:b37632839601e4819f53844d470eea72
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 11 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me.flac:747bbfd411c6031b2423bc36490d4ee6
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 12 Mudd Club.flac:512d010f761fe5ebc2ac6c195e1e850e
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 13 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.flac:afe7a2a1274497cb589a6a84005b6e94
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 14 Suicide Chump.flac:822bccb817fb8244235696dd0d82f2fc
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 15 Jumbo Go Away.flac:1103a9b5de7442f625060d78051b1b9f
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 16 If Only She Woulda.flac:bda12544fb3b800cdedb8cd78c992bd0
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 17 Drafted Again.flac:73804d84abbac5c3f2170f87be371416
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 18 Encore Tune Up.flac:5e5442ca9b57a111dcb14db77172281f
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 19 Bobby Brown.flac:9c5bcd87c9a67bf201e8f608ab0f2490
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 20 Ms Pinky.flac:f5e1ca04a8a0725bd26bf835101136a6
1980 12 05 (E) Berkeley CA - 21 Easy Meat.flac:917a5058a85e449708d910d1350996cb
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Post 2011-10-21 22:30   [Quote] 
Thanks to all involved. Enjoyed listening to the other version earlier this evening so am very interested to hear how different this is.

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Post 2011-10-22 03:30   [Quote] 
Thanks from Chippenham,England at 04.30am Sat 22/10/11 about to go to work.Will hopefully listen later.
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Post 2011-10-22 07:57   [Quote] 
Mr. Green Thanks to a team effort from RobSam-doctorzap-Drew51-flambay-mudsharknyc. Mr. Green

cooler Special thanks to mudsharknyc for his constant work and dedication here. cooler

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Thanks again guys!

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Post 2011-10-22 15:12   [Quote] 
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Post 2011-10-22 16:27   [Quote] 
Thank you thank you thank you!!

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Post 2011-10-22 17:27   [Quote] 
Folks track 18 in the unpatched folder is badly named and has "18:19" in the file name, ":" being an illegal character. This is causing my torrent client a problem when writing the actual file after downloading. The result is I get no file written after a 100% download. I suspect others may be getting the same problem.

Having said that, many thanks anyway!
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Post 2011-10-22 19:35   [Quote] 
great show thanks to all
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many thanks!
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Thanks very much tunes

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