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Post 2011-09-28 14:56   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
The Ritz
New York City, NY

1981 11 17


~~ complete FM version - patched with AUD source material ~~

This is a first shot attempt at trying to put together a complete Ritz show,
based on one of the best sounding FM source versions available as main body of this upload
and including fills from the currently best available 'other' sources (FM & AUD).
Maybe in some cases we should have made other choices,
and I'd like to leave that open to discussion,
but I believe that at least we're having a starting point here.
Any suggestions as to how to optimize this sources combination are more than welcome.
Meanwhile let's have a go at this one for starters and enjoy
one of the most amazing live recordings in FZ History !

Main body of this upload: 1981 11 17 The Ritz, New York, NY FM 1ST (RobSam Doctorzap)
(Shoebox upload: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21900)
speed corrected, tracked and patched to complete.

Fills included here are coming
from 2 alternate FM versions (for FM source parts missing in this robsam copy)
and from 2 AUD versions (for portions missing in all FM source versions, i.e. to those 'infamous' cuts spotted at about every 17 mins throughout the entire broadcast):

Alternate FM source versions:
tubro2 a.o. (FZ Shows Archives) and fzmoi69-doctorzap FM MC (Shoebox)

AUD sources:
Yojimbo-Drew51-Kristoftof 1st gen (FZ Shows) and
fzmoi69-doctorzap AUD MC (Shoebox)


Current FZ Shows entry:

1981 11 17 - The Ritz, New York, NY
170 min, Aud, B+
160 min, FM, A+/A

With Al DiMeola on guitar (*) and Brian Peters on vocals (**). The FM recording lacks the first song, and has some other cuts.


Treacherous Cretins, Montana, Easy Meat, You Are What You Is, Mudd Clubb, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, Dumb All Over, Heavenly Bank Account, Suicide Chump, Jumbo Go Away, Envelopes, Drowning Witch [parts on SATLTSADW], What's New In Baltimore?, Moggio, Bamboozled By Love, Sinister Footwear, Stevie's Spanking [parts as basic track on TOU], Cocaine Decisions, Nig Biz, Doreen, Goblin Girl, The Black Page (q: Smoke On The Water), Tryin' To Grow A Chin, Strictly Genteel, Clowns On Velvet* [parts as basic track on TF], Ride Like The Wind*/**, Zoot Allures [parts on Truck Driver Divorce, TOU], This Is My Story, Whipping Post, Watermelon In Easter Hay


This version: 171.11 min, FM/AUD, A (FM source), B+/B (AUD fills)

Main body (robsam-doctorzap 1st gen FM)
(Shoebox upload: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21900)

Lineage: Maxell MA-90 1st gen > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH > flac (Shoebox) >
Soundforge 9: speed correction, tracking, patching in fills > flac TLH lvl8 w/SBA (1.15 GB)

taped by: Ken Feldman
contributed by: robsam
transferred by: doctorzap
edited by: flambay

FILLS (in chronologial order of appearance):

1) - AUD 1 (Yojimbo-Drew51-Kristoftof AUD 1st gen, B+/B) - in Tracks 01,21,24,25,29
full FZ Shows seed: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9141
Lineage: Audience master-> 1st gen tape->HD->SoundForge (speed correction, editing, tracking)->FLAC Frontend >
Soundforge 9: extract patches, phase offset fix, merge with main source

taped by: unknown
transferred by: Yojimbo
edited by: Yojimbo, Kristoftof

2) - AUD2 (fzmoi69-doctorzap AUD MC, DR-1 rip, B+/B) - in Tracks 02,05,09,15,17,18
Shoebox seed (DR-1): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21290
full FZ Shows seed (older Sony transfer): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=18672
Lineage:
MASTER TAPE > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH >
Soundforge 9: extract patches, speed correction, phase offset fix, merge with main source

taped by: fzmoi69
transferred by: doctorzap
edited by: flambay

3) - FM 1 (tubro2-clyde200 etc. FM, A) - in Track 13
full FZ Shows seed by teasea: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3113
Lineage:
Master Cassette recorded from WLIR >NAK BX-300>WAV (SB Audigy)>CD-R>EAC>Flac
Front end > Make Torrent > Soundforge 9: speed correction, extract patches, merge with main source

taped & transferred by: ??
contributed by: tubro2, clyde200, teasea a.o.
edited (patches): flambay

4) - FM 2 (fzmoi69-doctorzap FM MC, DR-1 rip, A/A-) - in Tracks 21,31
Shoebox seed (DR-1): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21291

Lineage : MASTER TAPE > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH >
Soundforge 9: extract patches, speed correction, merge with main source

Recorded by Steve H./fzmoi69
Transferred by Raymond Morelli JR/doctorzap
Edited by: flambay

Frank Zappa's Band, September 1981 - July 1982:
FZ, Steve Vai, Ray White, Scott Thunes, Chad Wackerman,
Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Bobby Martin.
With Al DiMeola* on guitar (on #27,28) and Brian Peters** on vocals (on #28)

Setlist:

01 Emcee Intro, crowd noise [3:24] entire track from Yojimbo source (AUD1)
02 Treacherous Cretins [6:49] from fzmoi69 source (AUD2), robsam FM source starts at 5:32-39 (crossfade)
03 Montana [3:45]
04 Easy Meat [8:55] flaws/distortion at 7:45, common to all FM source versions
05 You Are What You Is [3:39] AUD2 source patch {0:48-1:55}
06 Mudd Club [2:45]
07 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing [3:08]
08 Dumb All Over [6:43]
09 Heavenly Bank Account [3:59] AUD2 source patch {1:17-2:47}
10 Suicide Chump [5:41]
11 Jumbo Go Away [3:40]
12 Envelopes [3:10]
13 Drowning Witch [parts on SATLTSADW] [11:42] AUD2 source patch {1:55-3:18} FM 1 source patches {3:48-3:53} and {8:38-9:01}
14 What's New In Baltimore? [6:08]
15 Moggio [2:32] AUD2 source patch {1:09-2:29}
16 Bamboozled By Love [5:31] cuts off at end
17 Sinister Footwear [10:06] applause mixed in at start, AUD2 source patch {10:05-end}
18 Stevie's Spanking [parts as basic track on TOU] [8:02] AUD2 source patch {0:00-1:37}
19 Cocaine Decisions [3:37]
20 Nig Biz [4:59]
21 Doreen [1:59] AUD1 source patch {0:22-1:17} FM 2 source patch {1:32-1:39}
22 Goblin Girl [2:23]
23 Black Page #2 (q: Smoke On The Water) [10:19]
24 Tryin' To Grow A Chin [2:23] AUD1 source patch {2:21-end}
25 Strictly Genteel [7:17] AUD1 source patch {0:00-1:08}
26 Clowns On Velvet* [parts as basic track on TF] [7:07]
27 Ride Like The Wind*/** [5:46]
28 Zoot Allures [parts on Truck Driver Divorce, TOU] [11:12]
29 This Is My Story [2:09] AUD1 source patch {1:05-2:04}
30 Whipping Post [6:33]
31 Watermelon In Easter Hay [5:34] FM 2 source patch {5:27-end}

Total time (patched version) 171.11 min

Unpatched version (complete FM source only)
to be seeded separately in FZ Shows.

Note: The applause after the cut between 16 Bamboozled and 17 Sinister
which is audible in all FM versions seems to have been edited into the Pre FM build reel
(along with all the other infamous edit skips known from this FM source).
In all AUD sources we can hear that Bamboozled segues right into Sinister,
with no applause or further interruption between these tracks.


Credits:
Thanks to all involved who have helped out with their various contributions of this show.
The tapers of all AUD & FM sources: Ken Feldman, fzmoi69 & all other unknown tapers,
to all contributors, transferrers, editors and seeders of the previously seeded versions (FZ Shows & Shoebox)
Yojimbo, Drew51, Kristoftof, fzmoi69, doctorzap, tubro2, Clyde200, teasea and others ...

This version (main body) brought to you by robsam, doctorzap & flambay

Enjoy !!

www.zappateers.com/bb - September 2011

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Previously uploaded (list is non-exhaustive):

FM source versions:
1981 11 17 The Ritz, New York, NY FM 1ST (RobSam Doctorzap) Shoebox:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21900
1981 11 17 NYC FM INC MC (fzmoi69 doctorzap) DR-1 Shoebox:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21291
1981 11 17 The Ritz NY 65.34 FM MC (fzmoi69-doctorzap) Sony Shoebox Archive:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=16973
1981 11 17 FM Ritz N.Y.C. TDK D 90 1ST Gen. 24 96 (Bob M-Doctorzap) Shoebox:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=20001
1981 11 17 The Ritz, NYC 158.37 FM (tubro2-clyde200-maiglocke-teasea) FZ Shows Archive:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3113

AUD source versions:
1981 11 17 NYC AUD INC MC (fzmoi69 doctorzap) DR-1 Shoebox:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21290
1981 11 17 The Ritz NY 122.09 Aud MC (fzmoi69-doctorzap) Sony Shoebox Archive:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=16972
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC 172.31 AUD MC (fzmoi69-doctorzap-Drew51-flambay) Sony FZ Shows:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=18672
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC 167.23 1st gen Aud (Yojimbo) FZ Shows Archive:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9084
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC 170.30 1st gen Aud (Yojimbo-drew51-Kristoftof) FZ Shows:
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9141

ffp:
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 01 EmCee Intro, crowd noise.flac:093314538856f1e52e7e92e236eb13e1
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 02 Treacherous Cretins.flac:41cf5fb8c8222b67daaae3db2c6c3f41
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 03 Montana.flac:cbf849ad35526fde50303cf40ab95930
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 04 Easy Meat.flac:901c6e32a66e8744b8bb0bc8f5d064ec
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 05 You Are What You Is.flac:00dd6f75f02b683571d9ef48173bd095
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 06 Mudd Club.flac:4b5a4848379ed8658f18271d05be9846
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 07 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.flac:b2448bb05921dc7623ef647f837d1888
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 08 Dumb All Over.flac:324892c6cd1ed623308f5fbf83ad8a30
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 09 Heavenly Bank Account.flac:c0b808b8cc41836abba27cf0dbcb809c
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 10 Suicide Chump.flac:9ccf43b3c226b33cafc536a846ddc572
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 11 Jumbo Go Away.flac:591aa8b9436cb0e16da1a16a69898597
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 12 Envelopes.flac:0be1956255f7ae4fb673e892311632cd
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 13 Drowning Witch.flac:a38ef2c413e99a6ba6d37ef7a5384201
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 14 What's New In Baltimore.flac:03b46a6ff9f4e534dd03c40c63941c15
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 15 Moggio.flac:b516a8db3f9ce0ff51e1274bb8cc0294
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 16 Bamboozled By Love.flac:265cbb23484d22cf11cd57649f30ecb6
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 17 Sinister Footwear.flac:bff55f196150d78f2808dae45888379a
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 18 Stevie's Spanking.flac:53500c2212f42bbdff4b64dc59c5e6c9
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 19 Cocaine Decisions.flac:662df16649f34fab22864c7d82bfcbc1
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 20 Nig Biz.flac:a48f0aea6d0426f0632e76caab8d02d1
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 21 Doreen.flac:ef6bc9bab98f8bfc2b0e7f640763bfe9
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 22 Goblin Girl.flac:29402b6a16a615fba8e18c437a87a956
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 23 Black Page #2.flac:b99708fca1d02bae774c8425e7ed55fc
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 24 Tryin' To Grow A Chin.flac:8344f2be5e09d0a18d304d548938799a
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 25 Strictly Genteel.flac:3bb3ae0340ced737bf79150298bbcedf
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 26 Clowns On Velvet.flac:d53beaeb4b98d8dc3d12e142e7d9514f
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 27 Ride Like The Wind.flac:26e81bceabee72c451196952e68a7ae4
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 28 Zoot Allures.flac:39144a1f98b732095f7b76ec66fef753
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 29 This Is My Story.flac:b3c325a8c090e78276a455841a4c74e7
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 30 Whippin' Post.flac:d307e9d4ffb318c50a3375adb968c327
1981 11 17 The Ritz NYC - 31 Watermelon In Easter Hay.flac:47de671ffcc26b49330199909d92f243

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Post 2011-09-28 14:57   [Quote] 
many thanks! cant wait to listen!

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Woooo Hoooo!

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This is a first shot attempt ...

Actually this is my second shot attempt today,
as I had to abort my previous upload
after being notified that I had overlooked that skip in 05 You Are What You Is.
Many thanks again to pbuzby for that early alert.

So here we go again, with yet an additional minute of Ritz material (170.04 > 171.11 min).

Just a note for those who have already started downloading that 'first' version:

Tracks 01-04 and 17-31 here are identical with those in the first version (same ffp).
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Many thanks for your hard work to all involved to bring us this powerful show Exclamation
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Woohoo!

weez burnin them suckas up now!

Right on, man!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVafHLqjRmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEr7ym4-r5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdx7M5ufDfQ

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Thanks again, flambay. cheers
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Many thanks. One of my favorite shows.
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Post 2011-09-28 15:49   [Quote] 
Thanks for the colossal work combing all the best sources! An essential 1981 show and an amazing teamwork effort. Holy Smokes! I am familiar with the sources used and am very keen on enjoying this fantastic outing by Frank, the band and special guests! Huge thanks to all the contributors for this show and to flambays mastery to make this possible, in halls of plenty!

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Post 2011-09-28 16:57   [Quote] 
flambay wrote:
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This is a first shot attempt ...

Actually this is my second shot attempt today,
as I had to abort my previous upload
after being notified that I had overlooked that skip in 05 You Are What You Is..

I was wondering why I couldn't find a thread after getting the RSS notification. Glad it wasn't just me getting confused again.
Thanks for all the hard work, looking forward to hearing it bigger and better than ever.

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