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1988 05 11 Zurich CH 2nd (RobSam doctorzap)
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doctorzap
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Post 2011-08-13 09:26   [Quote] 
1988 05 11 - Hallenstadion, Zurich, Switzerland
135 min, Aud, A-/B+
The Black Page, Packard Goose Medley, Any Kind Of Pain, I Ain't Got No Heart, Outside Now, The Orange County Lumber Truck Medley, Cosmik Debris, Dupree's Paradise, Let's Move To Cleveland, Trouble Every Day, City Of Tiny Lights, A Pound For A Brown (q: Carmen), The Torture Never Stops Medley, Joe's Garage, Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?, Bolero, Stairway To Heaven, I Am The Walrus, The Illinois Enema Bandit

mostly b+ sometimes A- sometimes b

Lineage: Maxell XLII-S 2nd gen > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH
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Post 2011-08-14 14:29   [Quote] 
This looks fantastic too, thanks again
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Post 2011-08-16 19:31   [Quote] 
Thanks for contributing this version.

Anyone with an alternate source version to help fill the gaps left in this version ?

Cuts spotted here:

01 The Black Page: cuts in, start missing, flaws over first 20-30 secs during FZ intro speech
07 Cosmik Debris: tf cut at about 2:25 into song (during guitar solo)
08 Dupree's Paradise: cut between trumpet and trombone solos, at 3:14 into song
10 Francesco (intermission synclavier): fades out right after start
11 Trouble Every Day: cuts in, start missing (first song after intermission break)
15 Joe's Garage: tf cut about halfway into song
21 The Illinois Enema Bandit: almost entire song is missing, fades out right after Walrus > Illinois segue

Catalogue mentions a pre-Zappateers version of this show, seeded by boguspomp (2005/EZT),
with "little equalization / slightly NR".
That one appears to be a copy (gen?) from the same master source as this robsam version,
probably from a different dubline:
Same parts missing in 01 Black Page and 07 Cosmik Debris.
Same cuts in 08 and 15, but with a few secs more material here and there which could be patched in here.
11 Trouble Every Day is complete, includes 14 secs pre-start audience noise and tune-up.
21 Illinois Enema Bandit is complete too.
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Post 2011-08-16 20:00   [Quote] 
From this samples thread in 2008 it seemed that Lolive had the best copy available at the time.
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Post 2011-08-16 20:16   [Quote] 
I have a copy, never checked it. i will.
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Post 2012-02-08 20:57   [Quote] 
Thanx to RobSam & doctorzap for sharing and to boguspomp for keeping the seed alive! Right on, man! Sounds like a great concert and I'm looking forward to listening to it Razz
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Post 2012-04-08 09:38   [Quote] 
hey boys

here is a link to download the "Zurich 1985 show"

use it at your best

http://bootlegs.me/lolive/FrankZappa-Zurich-11mai1988.zip
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Post 2012-04-12 16:16   [Quote] 
Any chance you could re-post this ?

I've downloaded it twice and Trader's Little Helper tells me that the 3rd track is corrupt.

Thanks.
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Post 2012-04-12 16:52   [Quote] 
Seeding and all files check ok with TLH
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Post 2012-04-12 17:54   [Quote] 
It appears the Lolive version is the same as this. My copy also is the same. So i can't provide any fills. My copy really sucks btw compared to Lolive, so I'm out for main source too.
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Post 2012-04-13 14:19   [Quote] 
thank you!

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Post 2012-04-13 14:34   [Quote] 
Bob going to bring me a bunch of 1st gens tomorrow

maybe this is one ? and some 81-84 never seen

maybe a bit slow I have the worst flu / allergies I ever had
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Post 2012-04-13 14:51   [Quote] 
Hmm...so is the Lolive also missing Illinois Enema Bandit?
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Post 2012-04-13 15:31   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
Hmm...so is the Lolive also missing Illinois Enema Bandit?


Maybe not, it has the same first tape flip, I didn't explore further. I will look....
No it has it, but I still think same source. It's just missing from this copy. Hope I'm wrong!
I will look into it further.

OK, I think it is the same source still, first two flaws match it must be the same source.
It does have IEB so is a different dub-line. It could be eq'ed but no matter I think it is the lowest gen, flaws are loud!
And has way more high end. IMHO the lolive version should be used as base unless it is messed with. BTW I asked for this recently, and he answered this tme, and it is nice!! Glad we secured it!!
My own copy of this show is so poor it should not be used under any circumstances.

Yeah sorry my bad, i said the same, and I meant the same source, not exactly the same. I used a poor choice of words.
It also appears the lolive source is raw from how it is tracked. Just raw dumps, it is not tracked out, it is probably raw!
SA/FA look decent and unmessed with, but I have messed that up before, others should look at the SA/FA.
It's also transferred very well with good levels and such.
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Post 2012-04-15 15:45   [Quote] 
doctorzap wrote:


maybe a bit slow I have the worst flu / allergies I ever had


Get well soon doctorzap Smile

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