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Post 2011-01-10 15:05   [Quote] 
This is a low gen copy, I know in general not to dump anything here, but Imho, this version beats the other two known gen tapes. I would love to know who taped this one? Or is it really just a version already presented? Truth is I'm getting burned out on this work, and would rather focus on interviews, because they are a hell of a lot easier then this shit! This editing and stuff is making my head hurt! This is a raw dump of the 16 bit version.

A Music Tribute To Edgard Varese
Performed By The Orchestra Of Our Time, Joel Thome conducting
Presentation by Frank Zappa
The Palladium, NYC, NY
1981 04 17
Source: Unknown generation audience recording

Lineage: Maxell XLII Cassette>Nakamichi CR-7A cassette deck>Tascam US-122L>
Sound Forge 9.0 (record/edits/resample)>FLAC Level 8

Transferred By: Drew51
Edited By: Drew51

Set list:
Ionisation (for Percussion Ensemble of 13 Players)
Density 21.5 (for Solo Flute)
Intégrales (for Small Orchestra)
intermission
Offrandes (for Soprano and Chamber Orchestra)
Déserts (for 15 Instruments. Percussion and Magetic tape of Electronically Organized Sounds)
Notes:
Credits: Thanks to The unknown taper!

2009 11 30 - Drew51 ZRP/Zappateers Archives
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Post 2011-01-10 15:07   [Quote] 
A zip file of the program is included in this torrent.
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Post 2011-01-10 16:09   [Quote] 
"Truth is I'm getting burned out on this work"

it is not easy when one must keep a job and the family happy

only reason it works for me especially now is I have not much else to do.
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Post 2011-01-10 16:16   [Quote] 
Let's compare and thanks for the program
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Post 2011-01-10 16:26   [Quote] 
frank2441 wrote:
Let's compare and thanks for the program


Yes, I believe you supplied this program to begin with!! You should be credited!! I think the T___ version and this one are the same source, I thought mine sounded a touch lower in gen. So that is another to look at, but again, I thought this was better then that one too!
The fzmoi69 source has the speed issues, and is duller sounding then this copy. This one has a higher range.
The TFEC 1st gen at times sounds awesome, better then this one. Also is a lot louder! But has huge areas of over saturation that sound really bad. So i prefer this copy that has some hot spots, but a lot fewer. For me I like these raw copies, a finished product is nice, but not a must for my collection. I very much like the pure raw dumps.
Thanks all for sharing what you have! Appreciate it!
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Post 2011-01-10 16:34   [Quote] 
Funny
forgot all about this

Embarassed

But hey
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Post 2011-01-10 16:59   [Quote] 
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forgot all about this


Well in the end all versions are out there for you. The delay was worth it, as two more possible sources became available. It just took this long! Notice I transferred this in November (2009 11 30 - Drew51 ZRP/Zappateers Archives) Actually that is probably when i completed the text, it was transferred even earlier.

Update: Duh, at the years beginning we all get fooled by dates, shit that is November of 09!! So well over a year ago, now that makes more sense, it seemed like longer then a few months duh! yeah like a year longer!!!
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Post 2011-01-10 18:16   [Quote] 
Thank you for your hard work. You guys/gals set a high standard, and it doesn't go unnoticed.
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Post 2011-01-19 16:48   [Quote] 
Drew51 wrote:
This is a low gen copy, I know in general not to dump anything here, but Imho, this version beats the other two known gen tapes. I would love to know who taped this one? Or is it really just a version already presented?

I'm suspecting that this low gen Drew51 version and the TFEC 1st gen Shoebox upload are from the same source.
Both versions are having the same cut at about 23:30 mins into Deserts,
and also between the end of Offrandes and FZ's intro to Deserts.

Drew51 wrote:
The TFEC 1st gen at times sounds awesome, better then this one. Also is a lot louder! But has huge areas of over saturation that sound really bad. So i prefer this copy that has some hot spots, but a lot fewer. For me I like these raw copies, a finished product is nice, but not a must for my collection. I very much like the pure raw dumps.


Not being sure currently about which of the two is the better sounding one (each one having its own merits imo)
I'm hoping for more opinions on which of the two versions we should continue working on for an FZ Shows upload of this source.
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Post 2011-01-20 23:42   [Quote] 
Would this be considered "FZ Related"? or "FZ Shows"? What section do you think?
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Post 2011-01-21 00:34   [Quote] 
elviszappa wrote:
Would this be considered "FZ Related"? or "FZ Shows"? What section do you think?

This is probably "FZ related" as FZ doesn't really perform. Like the 1976-12-06 Black Sabbath show Very Happy

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