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Frank Zappa songs, which appear long before the official release!
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Post 2010-01-20 16:26   [Quote] 
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Dupree's Paradise played 73 released 84(?)

Actually 1991, because the orchestral version released in 1984 is a different piece altogether.
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Post 2010-01-20 16:33   [Quote] 
nitramziarreh wrote:
teasea wrote:
Dupree's Paradise played 73 released 84(?)

Actually 1991, because the orchestral version released in 1984 is a different piece altogether.


thought so, hence the question mark. When was the BtB version released?
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Post 2010-01-20 16:47   [Quote] 
teasea wrote:
nitramziarreh wrote:
teasea wrote:
Dupree's Paradise played 73 released 84(?)

Actually 1991, because the orchestral version released in 1984 is a different piece altogether.


thought so, hence the question mark. When was the BtB version released?


I was actually thinking about MAJNH, but Piquantique is from 1991 as well.
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Post 2010-01-20 18:24   [Quote] 
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Post 2010-01-20 19:10   [Quote] 
"Cucamonga" & "Greggery Peccary" (to be found in the "Farther Oblivion"-suite)

"The Bebop Tango" doesn't count (released in a 1973-version)

Also "Some Ballet Music" (later popping up in "Greggery...") & parts of "200 Motels" (played live in London 1968, if I remember right)

"Take Your Clothes off when you Dance" (played earlier as "I'm so happy I could die"? - also in a jazzy instrumental version from 1964?)

Weren't there several early Mothers' songs actually written in pre-Mothers-times? ("Status Back Baby", "Duke of Prunes", "Pound for a Brown")

I could look it up, but that takes the fun out of it. Smile

Also "Sinister Footwear #2" & "Mo's Vacation"

And finally the post-solo hymn in "Inca Roads" (first popping up shyhly on "Burnt Wheeny Sandwich", I think during the "Holiday in Berlin"-solo)

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Post 2010-01-20 20:01   [Quote] 
Theme from Run Home Slow comes to mind. likewise Holiday In Berlin originally appears as a central theme in World's Greatest Sinner.

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Post 2010-01-20 21:21   [Quote] 
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likewise Holiday In Berlin originally appears as a central theme in World's Greatest Sinner.
That means, in a way, Inca Roads and Run Home Slow are directly related to each other (with Holiday in Berlin being the link). Never saw it that way.

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Post 2010-01-20 21:34   [Quote] 
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Weren't there several early Mothers' songs actually written in pre-Mothers-times? ("Status Back Baby", "Duke of Prunes", "Pound for a Brown")

A Pound for a Brown was purportedly written in 1958, which makes it one of the oldest songs FZ ever recorded.

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That means, in a way, Inca Roads and Run Home Slow are directly related to each other (with Holiday in Berlin being the link). Never saw it that way.

The inca motive also recurs on Aybe Sea and the instrumental interlude on Strictly Genteel.
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Post 2010-01-20 22:01   [Quote] 
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The inca motive also recurs on Aybe Sea and the instrumental interlude on Strictly Genteel.

And doesn't the first phrase of the motive recur in Treacherous Cretins too (although in a different harmonic environment)?
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Post 2010-01-20 22:28   [Quote] 
Cool - I wasn't aware of what you both wrote above.

But then again it also took me ages to recognise "Bwana Dik" is a reworking of the opening "Lumpy Gravy"-theme.

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Post 2010-01-20 22:53   [Quote] 
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And doesn't the first phrase of the motive recur in Treacherous Cretins too (although in a different harmonic environment)?

Hmmm, it's been a long time since the last time I've listened to SUNPYG, I'm not sure what you mean by "first phrase" but I'll have to check on that... thanks!
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Post 2010-01-21 07:24   [Quote] 
There's an instrumental version of "Joe's Garage"...which I think is introduced as "So Garage" on 790325 Dortmund, Germany. Not "long before", but kinda interesting.

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Post 2010-01-21 14:58   [Quote] 
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There's an instrumental version of "Joe's Garage"...which I think is introduced as "So Garage" on 790325 Dortmund, Germany. Not "long before", but kinda interesting.


There was also the proto-Catholic Girls heard a few days later. Crew Slut and the JG arrangement of Packard Goose were rehearsed before the '79 tour, but not played (at least on any circulating '79 tape), although the fall '78 Packard is fairly similar.
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Post 2010-01-21 18:01   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
Any Kind Of Pain - first played in 1976, not released until 1989.

Which show in '76? Can't find it. Confused

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Post 2010-01-21 18:10   [Quote] 
camabrillo wrote:
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Any Kind Of Pain - first played in 1976, not released until 1989.

Which show in '76? Can't find it. Confused


FZ and Bianca sing the chorus in the 1976 10 24 (L) show during Advance Romance, and then the 1976 12 26 show includes an instrumental performance of it during Approximate/Purple Lagoon.
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