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1970 11 29 (L) London UK ~106 Aud (bobm-doctorzap) samples  
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Post 2010-01-13 16:11   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
1970 11 29
The Coliseum, London, UK


samples from Bob M-doctorzap version

current FZshows entry:
Late show
110 min, Aud, B/B-
With Stephen Stills on guitar and vocals (*)
Little House I Used To Live In, Mud Shark, Holiday In Berlin, Cruising For Burgers, Easy Meat, Penis Dimension, Theme from the Patty Duke show, The Sanzini Brothers, The Air, What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening?, What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are?, Bwana Dik, Latex Solar Beef, Daddy Daddy Daddy, Do You Like My New Car? (incl. Suite: Judy Blue Eyes), Happy Together*, Who Are The Brain Police?*, Who Are The Brain Police/jam* (incl. Dr. John Routine, ???), What Will This Evening Bring Me This Morning?* (incl. Suite: Judy Blue Eyes, ???), The Sanzini Brothers

Yojimbo wrote:
Several sets of samples have been seeded before:
cu-globual: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6651
BuffaloVoice: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7641
M-walk: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17021
Bob M-doctorzap: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17391

I've only heard the M-walk samples, which were said to be better than the cu-globual version, and at least as good as the incomplete BuffaloVoice version. This 2nd gen, which is from the same source, might come across as dull compared to M-walk, but I believe the brightness in the latter is mostly due to generational shift. The hiss in my samples is definitely easier on the ears. The tape flip cuts in the M-walk version doesn't seem to exist on my CDRs, but I think I found one around What Will This Morning? and What Kind Of Girl? The second one seems to be before the 1st encore, with no music missing.
It would be nice if someone could seed some samples of the BM-DrZ version.


OK, let's be nice and add a set of samples from Bob M-doctorzap's "full" samples upload,
for easier comparison to Yojimbo's 2nd gen and all other versions,
mostly taken from the same parts as in Yojimbo's samples set,
plus the tape side flips and other spots from this version which may be of particular interest.

Samples:

A1 Little House (start tape)
A2 Holiday In Berlin sample
A3 Easy Meat sample
A4 Penis Dimension~banter (end side A)

B1 Sanzini Brothers~The Air (start side B)
B2 What Will This Morning~What Kind Of Girl (around cut)
B3 Who Are The Brain Police (start)
B4 Jam (end side B)

C0 Drum Solo~Orange County Coda - full portion, probably from 1970 05 09 Fillmore East NYC show
C1 Jam (contd. from side B) - 1970 11 29 London show continues here
C2 Drum Solo~What Will This Evening (around cut)
C3 Suite Judy Blue Eyes (end of tape)

taken from 'full show sample' (BobM-doctorzap) upload: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17391

No speed correction or any other clean-ups carried out yet.
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Post 2010-01-13 16:54   [Quote] 
all those sets are an improvement on the OSFA-MrU ones you have there, so it will be interesting to see what comes up.

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Post 2010-01-15 19:18   [Quote] 
Up through sample B3, this version has a noise in the left channel that's pretty hard on the ears. SA for Holiday in Berlin shows two spikes at ~8 and 16 kHz. And overall, I tend to favor my version with it's low hiss levels.
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