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1977 11 20 Los Angeles CA 157.26 Aud (Yojimbo-ZP)
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Frank Zappa
November 20th, 1977
Pauley Pavillion, UCLA
Los Angeles, CA


"Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent November 1977"
- Tommy Mardison, progenitor of the rock n' roll record and early bootlegger.

This is the penultimate show of the 1977 tour of the United States and Canada, the 1977 tour that has won nearly-unanimous rave reviews from every listener fortunate enough to have immersed himself in a show. This is also the ultimate show of November 1977 - ultimate both in terms of finality and, quite possibly, greatness.

Frank and the band are happy to be back home after three long months on the road, and it shows - not just in the good-time, goofy-natured Frank banter, but in the - for lack of a better term - instrumental slop. There are a lot of botched segues and hesitant openings, but these are not the errors of a rookie band. These are the mistakes made when one's body is consumed with sheer relief.

While no moment even threatens to come close to 10/31/77's Wild Love solo, there are plenty of moments that shine. Tonight's Conehead - the penultimate performance of the instrumental version of this tune - may be the best yet. Over ten minutes of Frank playing in that mellow, yet at the same time spooky, Fall 1977 style (at times one could almost mistake this for a Fall 76 Torture solo), peppered with quick flashes of those Middle Eastern licks Zappa was fond of in the 70s.

Wild Love is a beast tonight, clocking in at close to thirty minutes, and featuring a stand-out Peter Wolf solo, a bouncy-as-always Ed Mann solo, a very very brief flash of Adrian Belew and his picturesque EBow, then a long - and I mean LONG - Squirm solo. Even with an unfortunate tape-cut, this clocks in at over ten minutes. Over ten minutes of pure Zappa, with the band locked in - some of Bozzio's fills approach Thunesian levels of psychicness. The acapella "coda solo", while nowhere near as outrageous as what transpired on 10/31/77, is a very, very beautiful sixty-second slice of fretwork. I had always assumed these "coda solos" were played by Zappa, but tonight's solo sounds very much like Adrian Belew - alternating between weepy Elephant Talk and sinister "Entry of the Crims", with an eerie, dispassionate-in-the-notes-of-passion, other-worldly sound throughout. It also sounds similar to Hog Heaven in places, which could be an argument for Zappa's responsibility rather than Adrian's, but my "Adrian playing the coda" theory excites me and for the time being I feel like sticking to it.

And that's not even touching upon all the other typical Fall '77 highlights. A delicious Torture solo, a short and mean City solo, Envelopes, Punky's Whips (with, apparently, "the" Punky Meadows in attendance!), and all the "relief" numbers are all just as you'd expect 'em. We get a lengthy introduction to Bobby Brown - if he has to be popping up between Pound and Conehead, at least give us the whole story, I suppose - and a very enjoyable Titties n' Beer, where we finally learn the sordid origin of Tom Snyder and his Red Spiders. Capping it all off, we get a very neat little impromptu guitar workout, which leads into a full-band rendition of Isn't It Romantic (as typically heard during Punky's Whips). Earlier versions of FZShows listed this (correctly) as a separate setlist entry. FZShows 7.1 (the current version as of this writing) lists it, misleadingly, as "Punky's Whips (q: Isn't It Romantic)", which is the same as having "Florentine Pogen (q: Louie Louie)".

Anyway! Two and a half hours of non-stop November 1977 madness! Come for the Wild Love, stay for the atmosphere!

And, for our regular-whenever-possible second opinion, I yield the floor to Mr. Foggy Gossard of the (still defunct but never forgotten) Frank Zappa tape Reviewing Society:

Foggy G wrote:
November 20th, 1977

The last show of the tour unfortunately arrives, with Frank and the boys hitting Los Angeles before a five-week break until New Years. Frank is fired up about the show from the start, kidding(?) the band that all the L.A. Music Biz Hot Shots are here and thus everyone needs to show off their chops. When the band breaks into "Peaches en Regalia" minutes later, it is obvious within the first few seconds that they are ready to do just that, and that they are charged with excitement.

Unfortunately, this tape (and possibly the show) do not meet the high expectations. To begin with, the sound on the tape is at best poor, with numerous pockets of silence throughout all three sides, and the entire- yes, the entire- Monster jam in "Wild Love" missing. Well, we do get about thirty seconds of Frank's closing solo, but that's it. No Mann no Mars no Wolf no O'Hearn no Belew no jam. Just Frank's climatic finishing squeals. Do I even need to continue the review?

Ignoring this major flaw in the tape, we turn to the concert, which surprisingly, also has many flaws. For possibly the first time all tour, the band falls victim to many a train wreck, playing lazy throughout the whole show and making small but obvious boo-boo's in "Pound for a Brown" and "Jones Crusher". While the songs themselves (with the interesting exception of "Peaches") are played rather sloppily, the solo sections thrive with energy and force. Frank's "Torture" effort is one of his shorter and weaker of tour, but not for lack of a scary rhythm section pounding nails underneath him. "Conehead"- which is introduced as "Tom Snider and the Red Spiders of NBC"- returns for its penultimate instrumental performance, and delivers one of the top solos of the tour. Long and casual, but with a definite purpose, this solo finds Frank riding wave after wave of inspiration as he capitalises on every little motif he stumbles across. As he follows these tiny little muses, he maps out a solo that covers opposite ends of the emotional spectrum, yet somehow remains a cohesive whole.

other than Frank, not much goes on in this show. Mars' is the only soloist in "Pound for a Brown", and he delivers your typical Mars solo replete with keyboard goodies of all kinds. Wolf whips out a short one in "Lather", Bozzio's post-"Envelopes" solo is typical Bozzio, and apparently no one solos is "Wild Love". Frank's solo in "Punky's" sounds good, while his "Black Napkins" solo sounds short and dull, though neither of this matters as the sound on the tape becomes nearly inaudible by the time "Punky's Whips" rolls around.

This is a disappointing tape. The best part of the show (more than likely), is cut, and what we have reveals the human ("we do make mistakes") side of the Frank and the band. There are a couple good moments-primarily the "Conehead" solo- but thanks to poor sound and the availability of other, better shows from this tour, this tape falls into the "maybe someday" pile.

--JG


Note that Foggy G's review was based on the inferior-sounding recording used only for patches here. The Wild Love jam - or at least the vast, vast majority of it - is now complete and accounted for.

LINEAGE:
AUD > ? > cass/? > HD > SoundForge (speed correction > ZP > Wavelab (speed correction as per flambay, high quality, no length preservation, maximum rhythm accuracy) > GoldWave (crossfaded and patched with alternate source, overlaps removed) > CDWav (file splitting, split files saved as FLAC level 8) > foobar2000 (ReplayGain added, tags added using Live Show Tagger) > you, to whom it may concern.

OLD FZSHOWS ENTRY:
1977 11 20 - Pauley Pavillion, UCLA, Los Angeles, CA
145 min, Aud, B-/C+
65 min, Aud, B+/B

The better sounding recording starts near the end of Wild Love.

Intro, Peaches En Regalia, The Torture Never Stops, Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, A Pound For A Brown, Bobby Brown, Conehead, Flakes, Big Leg Emma, Envelopes, Disco Boy, I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth, Wild Love, Titties 'n Beer, The Black Page, Jones Crusher, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, Punky's Whips (q: Isn't It Romantic?), Dinah-Moe Humm, Camarillo Brillo, Muffin Man, San Ber'dino, Black Napkins

This source: 157 min, Aud, B/B- (improves to B+/B at start of the Wild Love solos)

FZSHOWS CORRECTIONS AND ERRATA:
1) The two sources Jon listed (and Oscar lists) are, in fact, the same recording, with the shorter B+/B tape sounding less generated. This package contains the first ~85 minutes of the B-/C+ source (which isn't really all that bad sounding - the sound gradually improves from B/B- to a straight B by the beginning of Wild Love), with the last ~65 minutes from the B+/B source (sounding more of a straight-up B+ to these ears). Fills come from a hitherto-unmentioned "third" source, which is actually just a second recording, which sounds... pretty shitty in places, but there are definitely worse tapes out there. Let's call it a C+/C.

2) As mentioned above, "Punky's Whips (q: Isn't It Romantic?)" should be changed to "Punky's Whips, Isn't It Romantic" (or perhaps "Punky's Whips, guitar solo (incl. Isn't It Romantic?)").

3) The complete show, compiled from all known sources, runs for 155 minutes.

REVISED FZSHOWS ENTRY:
1977 11 20 - Pauley Pavillion, UCLA, Los Angeles, CA
145 min, Aud, B+, B/B-
120 min, Aud, C+/C

The better sounding recording starts as B/B-, suffers from some azimuth issues in the beginning, and improves to B+ at the beginning of the Wild Love solos. The worse-sounding recording suffers from numerous small volume and stereo fluctuations throughout, and is missing Wild Love. Combined sources run for 155 minutes.

Intro, Peaches En Regalia, The Torture Never Stops, Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, A Pound For A Brown, Bobby Brown, Conehead, Flakes, Big Leg Emma, Envelopes, Disco Boy, I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth, Wild Love, Titties 'n Beer, The Black Page, Jones Crusher, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, Punky's Whips, Isn't It Romantic?, Dinah-Moe Humm, Camarillo Brillo, Muffin Man, San Ber'dino, Black Napkins

TRACKLIST:
01. Intro
02. Peaches En Regalia
03. The Torture Never Stops
04. Tryin' to Grow a Chin
05. City of Tiny Lights
06. Pound for a Brown
07. Bobby Brown Preamble
08. Bobby Brown
09. Conehead
10. Flakes
11. Big Leg Emma
12. Envelopes
13. Disco Boy
14. I Promise Not to Come in Your Mouth
15. Wild Love
16. Titties and Beer
17. Dance Contest
18. The Black Page
19. Jones Crusher
20. Broken Hearts Are for Assholes
21. Punky's Whips
22. Isn't It Romantic?
23. Dinah-Moe Humm
24. Camarillo Brillo
25. Muffin Man
26. San Ber'dino
27. Black Napkins

NOTES:
01. Intro (0:00-1:32 from alt source)
08. Bobby Brown (3:02-3:04 (end) from alt source)
09. Conehead (0:00-0:04, 1:45-2:00, 6:58-7:09 from alt source)
12. Envelopes (0:05-0:23 from alt source)
15. Wild Love (cut at 21:40, ~0:10-0:15 seconds missing, 28:15-28:24 from alt source)
22. Isn't It Romantic? (cuts in)
25. Muffin Man (0:00-0:16 from alt source)

Aside from the relatively small cut in Wild Love, and perhaps five seconds or so of the Isn't It Romantic? interlude, no music is missing.

BONUS RAW-ITIES:
09. Conehead (unpatched)
12. Envelopes (unpatched)
15. Wild Love (unpatched)
24/25. Camarillo Brillo > Muffin Man (unpatched)

Note that aside from Conehead, these tracks are all fragments. I didn't provide an unpatched intro, because that would be seriously fucking silly. You can drop the unpatched Conehead in with the rest of the show (hence the filename), but there'll be an overlap towards the end of Bobby Brown, and likely a click at the transition to the next track.

FFP:
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771120-Los Angeles - 02 Peaches En Regalia.flac:2f98a9c8ab029d919018bd68a86daaf2
771120-Los Angeles - 03 The Torture Never Stops.flac:facee20ee760ade424c8a1637006af80
771120-Los Angeles - 04 Tryin' to Grow a Chin.flac:d0d10f116a47d444fe75cee378209bff
771120-Los Angeles - 05 City of Tiny Lights.flac:836878c2b5c2a5b40177d637e5b5154b
771120-Los Angeles - 06 Pound for a Brown.flac:acb78bcf44b6e01bbe600487e1145c40
771120-Los Angeles - 07 Bobby Brown Preamble.flac:4661d56f5079b6e484ca0c8f5ad7c523
771120-Los Angeles - 08 Bobby Brown.flac:2c2fdcc4a1a4c424ebad9b96a2c8ba7a
771120-Los Angeles - 09 Conehead.flac:af2a5738764a2cda4c669d0323497b2d
771120-Los Angeles - 10 Flakes.flac:df29a448fb562f0a582ed29ec69b39ed
771120-Los Angeles - 11 Big Leg Emma.flac:b7f00bd3aa1380c274494a321184028a
771120-Los Angeles - 12 Envelopes.flac:c870e34cb98310a381fb8c5811afafa6
771120-Los Angeles - 13 Disco Boy.flac:293ff7295b3dbf49e1fb7297ae09f184
771120-Los Angeles - 14 I Promise Not to Come in Your Mouth.flac:a3b37e13b4bd1e537373f8abfbaa8b9c
771120-Los Angeles - 15 Wild Love.flac:0a0ffcce35e9495f4c0c5f5d90705438
771120-Los Angeles - 16 Titties and Beer.flac:8e81b1ad70fa3c0abc2984ae0c12b599
771120-Los Angeles - 17 Dance Contest.flac:0b139adde98efcfbc27107fb98d4079f
771120-Los Angeles - 18 The Black Page.flac:ef7c9b36f6e5b116b53c4cf6fdaf7737
771120-Los Angeles - 19 Jones Crusher.flac:9364146cfa168403a38741287808e215
771120-Los Angeles - 20 Broken Hearts Are For Assholes.flac:64ea807bc69d415deb04b3883d9a9dc4
771120-Los Angeles - 21 Punky's Whips.flac:a8fc446dba12a4f6213d40c0c7f42b5d
771120-Los Angeles - 22 Isn't It Romantic.flac:e12ce5e3fb820f1262556f0a0868bc12
771120-Los Angeles - 23 Dinah-Moe Humm.flac:800194bba08ee536ef078f0e18f2d9c9
771120-Los Angeles - 24 Camarillo Brillo.flac:8d420dcf25001b5c32defcc49006b45c
771120-Los Angeles - 25 Muffin Man.flac:f08b5f60974ee6ff1227778073715326
771120-Los Angeles - 26 San Ber'dino.flac:0bdaf51b147759cdab5cefa34ad17fe5
771120-Los Angeles - 27 Black Napkins.flac:36214e4c8e25c2f66cff24520c0b7357

771120-Los Angeles - 09 Conehead unpatched.flac
Camarillo Muffin unpatched.flac:b0b30cb84f60bfaeb7fbf98ba6539cc4
Envelopes unpatched.flac:a2ebe3cf0768f53b8cbe36f33ca47616
Wild Love end unpatched.flac:7f3c55df8c473b798cfeefe862ce63e5


REQUESTS:
Do not buy high. Do not sell low. Trade as .FLAC. Keep circulating the tapes.

CREDITS:
Yojimbo - original tapes and FLACs
flambay - Speed/pitch advice
ZP - Editing and seeding

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Thanks for all your efforts & for sharing this one with us, ZP & Y.
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Post 2009-04-15 18:59   [Quote] 
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Frank and the band are happy to be back home after three long months on the road, and it shows - not just in the good-time, goofy-natured Frank banter, but in the - for lack of a better term - instrumental slop.


IIRC, Ed Mann mentioned on a.f.f-z that the band was not in top form at this show (comments can be found here). Still nice to see it seeded and thanks for the edit job.
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merci pour votre travail et pour la qualiter qui en ressort
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Post 2009-04-15 21:15   [Quote] 
Your description has got me moist! Can't wait for FZ and the band to give it to me (Baby octopus not required). (Note to self - Think calm thoughts).
Love your work ZP (and your prose!).

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Excellent. I've been waiting for this one to arrive. Thanks for putting it together B. music014 icon95

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Sounds like a winner and a definite worthwhile listen to me, thanks for seeding/sharing, and thanks for the thesis ZP, they're always great bowdown

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Thanks one mo again!
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