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Post 2013-03-21 14:58   [Quote] 
Leaving the Test Pressing aside, this is what i've come up with so far, looks pretty shitty, but the physical differences of the Labels don't make it much easier.

As of now we have 3 different Covers:

1. Punky's Whips listed on back & inner spread
2. Punky's Whips listed on back cover, only
3. no mention of Punky's at all

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: PUNKY'S WHIPS; plain inner groove / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / M: K 69204 A1 ALLEN / V: black / GZ: 100-1
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: PUNKY'S WHIPS; convex inner groove / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / M: K 69204 A1 ALLEN / V: black / GZ: na; BP

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex inner groove / FOC: unknown / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: unknown / GZ: 100-2

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex outer rim / FOC: back indicates PW / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: "translucent red" / GZ: 100-3
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex outer rim / FOC: no reference to PW / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: "translucent red" / GZ: 100-3

All known UK-pressings have: ALL RIGHTS...; WCC; Side 1,2,3,4; Matrix numbers shown are for Side 1.

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Post 2013-03-21 15:09   [Quote] 
above looks good to me.

The only thing I'm not sure is whether 100-1 convex/plain is a actual difference. It may just be another lousy picture in GZ, though I admit the picture does look like plain. My copy is also the convex variety.

Somebody must have the 100-2 variety to fill the gaps.
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Post 2013-03-21 15:21   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
Somebody must have the 100-2 variety to fill the gaps.


Yeah, maybe even a copy with plain inner groove Wink

OK, leave it for now that way untill i'm finished with the Internationals, maybe StatusBaby and/or Bengo jump in.....

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Post 2013-03-22 16:41   [Quote] 
Next question, what is the ("important") difference between GZ: 101-2 and 101-3?

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Post 2013-03-22 18:10   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:
Next question, what is the ("important") difference between GZ: 101-2 and 101-3?


Another case where proof reading did go wrong in GZ? No other answer possible from my side.
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detritus wrote:

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Next question, what is the ("important") difference between GZ: 101-2 and 101-3?

Another case where proof reading did go wrong in GZ? No other answer possible from my side.


That works for me Wink
If things turn out the way planned i go online with the update this weekend.

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Hasi wrote:
maybe StatusBaby....jump in.....


Unfortunately not - my official vinyls are archived - I only have access to vinyl boots and official CDs atm

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Post 2013-04-10 08:30   [Quote] 
I guess I missed this update.

What's the 1198 on the spine of the ITA pressings? My copy of ITA 100-6 does not have that, only the (P)1977. Matrix has 21.3.78

If we believe what's written in GZ then only the UK and GER pressings with 'Punkys' are legit, all other versions are fake. That would include the ITA 100-5, which is not marked as such in GZ. Another case where proof reading did go wrong? I do believe that it is fake, at least the copies I've seen of it at record fairs gave me that impression.

The AUT probably has some variations. The copy I've got has 2 different labels on side 3-4.
Don't know about side 1-2 as my copy came with the GER 99-7 disc inside. Possible, but also possible that it was a later 'marriage'.
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Post 2013-04-10 08:31   [Quote] 
And last a lousy picture of the GER DIS-69204 existence questionable version. No further info.
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Post 2013-04-10 17:28   [Quote] 
The full text on the spine of mine Italian copy with "Punky" is:
W69204 Frank Zappa/Zappa in New York All rights reserved. unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws 1198 1977 Warner Bros. Records inc.
the matrix of side one is PV 59W2290-1L 2 12 77

The text on the spine of the censored Italian copy is
W69204 Frank Zappa/Zappa in New York 1977 Warner Bros. Records inc.
The matrix of side one is 59W2290-1L/2 21 3 78

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Post 2013-06-12 16:20   [Quote] 
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23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP with Punky's Whips - existence questionable
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Post 2013-06-12 16:21   [Quote] 
the cover
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Post 2013-06-12 16:23   [Quote] 
the cover again
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Post 2013-06-14 12:42   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
And last a lousy picture of the GER DIS-69204 existence questionable version. No further info.


manxzx wrote:
23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP with Punky's Whips - existence questionable


This is a rare case when i really like to be proven wrong Wink

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23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP with Punky's Whips - existence questionable


Could you please post the matrix of Side1 ?

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