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Post 2009-04-10 23:01   [Quote] 
23: US Vinyl

23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 1977 S 2LP with "Punky's Whips" / withdrawn/unreleased

23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 1980 S 2LP Label: PW; S: 1,2,3,4 / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / Sp.: 1198 (P)1977... / M: K 69204-A / GZ: 101-4 Counterfeit!

23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 Re-1 1978 S 2LP Label: BLE; S: 1,2,3,4 / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / M: 2D-1-2290 RE 1 LW2 / GZ: 101-2, 3; Knepo

23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 Re-1 1978 S 2LP Label: BLE; S: 1,2,3,4 / FOC: no PW; Sp.: (P) 1977... / M: 2D-I-2290 RE1 LW2 * / gold-stamped Promo / GZ: 101-2, 3
23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 Re-1 1978 S 2LP Label: BLE; S: 1,4,2,3 / FOC: no PW; Sp.: (P) 1977... / M: 2D-1-2290 RE1 WW1 #2 "winchester-sign" / GZ: 101-2, 3
23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 Re-1 1978 S 2LP Label: BLE; S: 1,2,3,4 / FOC: no PW; Sp.: (P) 1977... / M: 2D-1-2290 RE1 JW3 #2 / GZ: 101-2, 3
23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 Re-1 1978 S 2LP Label: BLE; S: 1,2,3,4 / FOC: no PW; Sp.: no writing / M: 2D-2290-A / GZ: 101-2, 3

23 ZINY US AFRTS P-17539/40 RL 18-8 197? S LP White Label: cont. BIG LEG EMMA, BLACK PAGE #2, THE PURPLE LAGOON; / B-Side: Reo Speedwagon / GZ: na; HdS, manxx

All DISCREET Labels above have DISCREET RECORDS..... MADE IN USA;
PW = Punky's Whips
BLE = Big Leg Emma


UK Vinyl All known UK-pressings have: ALL RIGHTS...; WCC; Side 1,2,3,4; Matrix numbers shown are for Side 1.

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: PUNKY'S WHIPS; plain inner groove / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / M: K 69204 A1 ALLEN / V: black / GZ: 100-1
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: PUNKY'S WHIPS; convex inner groove /FOC: PW on back & inner spread /M: K 69204 A1 ALLEN /V: black /GZ: na; BP

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex inner groove / FOC: unknown / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: unknown / GZ: 100-2

23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex outer rim / FOC: back indicates PW / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: "translucent red" / GZ: 100-3
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: BIG LEG EMMA; convex outer rim / FOC: no reference to PW / M: K 69204 A ALLEN / V: "translucent red" / GZ: 100-3

Zappa Records Vinyl Re-Issue cont. the 1991 CD-mix (Titties & Beer: 7:17)

23 ZINY FRA ZAPPA ZAPPA 37 1991 S 2LP Blue Label: MUSIC FOR NATIONS, MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: Made in France; FZ 25 Logo; w/PW / Side A,B,C,D / GZ: 99-12

German Vinyl (All 3 German Labels have GEMA and LC 3152, all 3 FOC have WEA, WCC, LC 3152;)

23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: PW; A DISCREET… WEA….; / FOC: (O), PW on back & inner spread /M: WEA 2-D-1-2290-A2 PF /GZ: na; detritus, manxzx
23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: BLE; ALLE URHEBER- …; WEA, WCC / FOC: (O), PW on back & inner spread /M: WEA 2 D-1-2290 (II) PF 69204-A /GZ: 99-7
23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: BLE; ALLE URHEBER- …; no factory or licencee / FOC: (O), no ref. to PW; /M: WEA 2 D-1-2290 (II) PF 69204-A /GZ: 99-6

International Vinyl

23 ZINY AUT DISCREET DIS 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; Austro Mechana; LC 3152 / FOC: (O), Made In Germany / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 99-2
23 ZINY AUT DISCREET DIS 69204 1978 S 2LP probably as above, but Side 3 has ALLE URHEBER… WEA, WCC / GZ: maybe 99-2; detritus

23 ZINY NL DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: DISCREET … .MADE IN HOLLAND; STEMRA & STEREO right / FOC: … Negram B.V. Heemstede... / no PW / GZ: 100-10
23 ZINY NL DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER- …; WEA, WCC, LC 3152; STEMRA & STEREO left / FOC: (O), PW on back & inner spread GZ:100-11
23 ZINY NL DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER- …; WEA, WCC, LC 3152; STEMRA & STEREO left / FOC: (O), no PW / GZ: 100-11; BP

23 ZINY BEL DISCREET DIS 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: SABAM, ALLE URHEBER- …; no Factory or Licencee; LC 3152 / FOC: (O), Made in Germany / no PW / GZ: na

23 ZINY ITA DISCREET W 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: WA 69204; ...WEA ITALIANA; SIAE-DR; PW / FOC: PW on back & inner spread / Sp.: 1198 / M: 2.12.77 /GZ: 100-5; H; BP
23 ZINY ITA DISCREET W 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: WA 69204; ...WEA ITALIANA; SIAE-DR; BLE / FOC: no PW Sp.: 1198 / M: 2.12.77 / GZ: na, BP#1 (?)
23 ZINY ITA DISCREET W 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: W 69204; … WEA ITALIANA; SIAE/DR; BLE / FOC: no PW M: 21.3.78 / GZ: 100-6; BP#2; detritus
The FOC for all 3 Italian pressings above have: Made In Italy by WEA ITALIANA S.p.A. Distribuzione Messaggerie Musicali, Milano

23 ZINY FRA DISCREET 69204 1978 S 2LP Label: SACEM right; TOUS DROITS… MADE IN FRANCE. / FOC: (2xU), ...WEA filipacchi…; WCC / M: MPO WEA 69204 A / S: A,D,B,C / GZ: 99-11

23 ZINY ESP WARNER BROS. S 96.004 1978 S 2LP Burbank Promo: no ESTEREO; HISPAVOX, S.A., MADRID; "DISCO PROMOCIONAL ... VENTA" / GZ: na; HdS
23 ZINY ESP WARNER BROS. S 96.004 1978 S 2LP Burbank Label: no ESTEREO, HISPAVOX, S.A., MADRID / FOC / GZ: 99-8
23 ZINY ESP WARNER BROS. S 96.004 1978 S 2LP White WB-Label: no ESTEREO; HISPAVOX, S.A.; MADRID, WEA, WCC / FOC / GZ: 99-9
23 ZINY ESP WARNER BROS. S 96.004 1978 S 2LP White WB-Label: no ESTEREO; HISPAVOX, S.A.; no MADRID; WEA, WCC, S.G.A.E. / FOC / GZ: 99-10

23 ZINY POR DISCREET LP-S-65-39/40 1978 S 2LP Label: unknown / FOC: unknown / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: na; unconfirmed
23 ZINY POR DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP Label: SPA; ESTEREO right; ... FABRICADO EM PORTUGAL POR F.P.D…. ; BIG LEG EMMA / FOC: unknown / GZ: 101-1

23 ZINY GRE WARNER BROS. WB 0754/55 1977? S 2LP Burbank Label: … MADE IN GREECE BY EMI / FOC: 0754/55; MADE IN GREECE / BIG LEG EMMA / GZ: 100-4

23 ZINY YUG WARNER BROS. WB 69204 1977? S 2LP Burbank Label: ALL RIGHTS… YUGOTON; SUZY RECORDS; SAKOJ / FOC: reversed inner spread / GZ: 101-6

23 ZINY NOR DISCREET 2D 2290 1977 S 2LP Label: ncb, DISCREET RECORDS…/ MADE IN NORWAY; Big Leg Emma / GZ: na; HdS

23 ZINY CAN DISCREET 2D 2290 1977 S 2LP Label: WEA, WCC, Q below 2D 2290; "1810 BIRCHMOUNT RD.,SCARBOROUGH, ONTARIO" / GZ: 99-4

23 ZINY AUS DISCREET 2D 2290 1977? S 2LP Label: MX 185199, UNAUTHORISED... AUSTRALIA BY A REGISTERED USER...... WEA RECORDS PTY. LIMITED... / GZ: 99-1

23 ZINY NZ REPRISE 2D 2290 1978 S 2LP Reprise Label: WEA Records Limited / FOC: Marketed by WEA Records Limited,... Auckland, New Zealand / GZ: 100-12

23 ZINY JAP DISCREET P-6339W 1977 S 2LP White Discreet Label Promo: short rim: WARNER PIONEER…. / no reference to Punky's / GZ: 100-8
23 ZINY JAP DISCREET P-6339W 1977 S 2LP Yellow Discreet Label: long rim: WARNER-PIONEER , WARNER BROS / no reference to Punky's / GZ: na; HdS

23 ZINY BRA WARNER BROS. 36.059 / 2D 2290 1978 S 2LP Burbank Label: GRAVACOES ELETRICAS S.A.; WEA / GZ: 99-3

23 ZINY VEN WARNER BROS. GM Lps 200.2385 1978 S 2LP Burbank Label: GRABACIONES MUNDIALES C.A. / Cover: unknown / GZ: 101-5, HdS
23 ZINY VEN WARNER BROS. GM Lps 200.2385 197? S 2LP White WB-Label: GRABACIONES MUNDIALES C.A.; WCC / Cover: unknown / GZ: na; HdS

23 ZINY COL WARNER BROS. 23 (1031) 00066/67 1978 S 2LP White WB-Label: Sonolux S A, WEA, WCC / GZ: 99-5

23 ZINY KOR Label? T-267 1979 S 2LP White Label: STEREO / Single Sleeve: brown / BLE / GZ: 100-9 (has T 257, Softcover); HdS
23 ZINY KOR Label? 7802 19?? S 2LP White Label: STEREO; MADE IN KOREA / Cover: red / BLE / GZ: na; HdS
23 ZINY KOR Label? Cat. No.? 1979 S LP Single LP / Single Sleeve: green / GZ: na; mentioned by Murry

Original CD w/Punky's Whips & 4 bonus tracks

23 ZINY US BPR D2-74240 1991 S 2CD
23 ZINY FRA ZAPPA CDDZAP 37 1991 S 2CD Made in France
23 ZINY JAP RYKO VACK 5083/84 1991 S 2CD Cat No. Correct ???

"1995" CD w/Punky's Whips & 4 bonus tracks

23 ZINY US RYKO RCD 10524/25 1995 S 2CD
23 ZINY AUS RYKO/Festival D 70299/300 1995 S 2CD
23 ZINY JAP RYKO VACK 5083/84 1995 S 2CD All Lyrics
23 ZINY JAP RYKO VACK 5218/19 1998 S 2CD All Lyrics / re-numbered 1995 CD
23 ZINY JAP RYKO VACK-1223 2001 S 2CD Cardboard Sleeve / Ltd. Edt. of 2000 copies / Obi / Lyrics / FOC
23 ZINY JAP RYKO VACK-1325/26 2008 S 2CD Cardboard Sleeve/ part of Sheik Yerbouti Box

2012 Zappa / Universal reissues w/Punky's Whips & 4 bonus tracks

23 ZINY EU ZAPPA/UME 0238562 2012 S 2CD Source: 1993 1630 Digital Master / GRAND RIGHTS / Made in the EU / 2012-08-28

Cassettes

23 ZINY US DISCREET J5A 2290 1978 S CASS
23 ZINY AUS DISCREET J5W 2290 1978 S CASS
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 469204 1978 S CASS w/Punky's Whips
23 ZINY GER DISCREET 469204-K 1978 S CASS
23 ZINY ITA DISCREET W4 69204 A/B 1978 S CASS 2 Cassettes
23 ZINY CAN WB/DISCREET K 469204 1978 S CASS
23 ZINY UK ZAPPA TZAPPA 37 1991 S CASS contains "Punky's Whips", but no bonus tracks / most tracks are shorter
23 ZINY US BPR D4 74240 1991 S CASS

8 -Tracks

23 ZINY US DISCREET JBA-2290 1978 S 8-T

Test Pressings, Misprints, Bootlegs, "Maybes",....

23 ZINY US DISCREET 2D 2290 1977 S 2LP White Label Testpressing / with "Punky's Whips"
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP White Label Testpressing on 2 separate LPs
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Testpressing (Censored) / "translucent red" Vinyl/Cover indicates Punky's Whips
23 ZINY UK MAYKING REC. ZAPPA 37 1990 S 2LP Testpressing / 5.12.90 / 6.12.90 / White Inner Sleeves - No Cover / with Punky's Whips

23 ZINY ??? no Label P 910128 19?? S CD "Just Another Live Album" bootleg CD
23 ZINY FRA Label? FZNY 4412 19?? S CD Counterfeit CD / Jewel Case
23 ZINY FRA Label? FZNY 4412 19?? S 2CD? Counterfeit CD / Cardboard Sleeve
23 ZINY GER Label? Gema 4412 19?? S 2CD? Counterfeit CD

A load of labels: http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/zappainnewyork.html

IINK: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Zappa_In_New_York.html

Patio: http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/ziny.html

Grand Zappa check: done;

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Post 2009-04-11 01:35   [Quote] 
Issues
Original vinyl (DiscReet 2D 2290 in the US, March 3 1978; K 69204 in the UK, April 1978 - test pressings (uncensored) are also in circulation, as are gold-stamped promos)
German vinyl (WEA DiscReet 69204 - copy reported with "Punky's Whips" listed on cover but not on label)
Dutch vinyl (DiscReet 69204-A)
French vinyl (DiscReet 69204, picture sleeve)
Greek vinyl
Yugoslavian vinyl (SUZY Records 69204, 1977)
Japanese vinyl (DiscReet P-6339-40W, white-label promo also reported)
Brazilian vinyl
Norwegian vinyl (WEA DiscReet 2D2290)
Korean vinyl (T 257 - "ZAPP IN NEW YORK" on label)
"Facsimile bootleg" vinyl
Cassette (Warner/DiscReet J5A 2290)
8-track
Zappa Records Vinyl (Zappa Records 37)
Original CD (Barking Pumpkin D2 74240, Zappa Records CDDZAP37 in the UK, October 1991; VACK 5083/4 in Japan)
Zappa Records cassette (TZAPPA37)
1991 cassette (Barking Pumpkin, September or October 1991)
1995 CD (Ryko RCD 10524/25, May 2 1995; VACK 5083/4 in Japan, renumbered 5218/19 in 1998)
Japanese paper-sleeve CD (Ryko/VACK 1223, October 24 2001)

CD counterfeit
"Just Another Live Album" bootleg CD

From http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/ziny.html
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Post 2009-04-12 21:08   [Quote] 
Spanish vynil : 2LP, Hispavox S 96.004, 1978

( This issue has two different vynil labels by Warner Bros.)

Pics: http://globalia.net/donlope/zappa/discoteca/Zappa_In_New_York.html
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Post 2009-04-13 05:25   [Quote] 
USA Barking Pumpkin D4 74240 Cassette
UK Discreet K469204 Cassette with Punky's whips
UK Discreet K469204 Cassette without Punky's whips
GER Discreet 469204-K Cassette
ITA Discreet W469204/A/B 2 cassettes
USA Discreet JBA-2290 8Track

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Post 2009-04-18 05:58   [Quote] 
Spanish vinyl : Hispavox S 96.004, 1978 Promo

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Post 2009-07-09 10:35   [Quote] 
Additions:

Vinyl

US Discreet Records 1977 (White Label Testpressing)
US AFRTS P-17539 (White Label)
CAN Discreet 2D 2290 (Yellow Label)
UK K69204 (White Label Testpressing on 2 separate LP's)
IT Discreet WA 69204 (Yellow Label)
AUS Discreet 2D 2290
VEN Warner Bros. GM LPS 200.2385 (Picture Label)
COL Warner Brothers 23 (1031) 00066/67
KOR no. 7802 (Red Cover, Brown Label)

DCD

AUS Ryko/Festival Records D 70299/300 (1995)
JAP Ryko VACK 1325/26 (2008, Cardboard Sleeve, part of "Sheik Yerbouti Box")

Cassette

CAN Warner/Discreet K 469204
AUS Discreet J5W 2290

Counterfeit CD

FR FZNY 4412 in Jewel Case
FR FZNY 4412 in Cardboard Sleeve
GER Gema 4412
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Post 2009-07-30 21:50   [Quote] 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270435173925

Maybe this "contract pressing" bye PYE is the rarest of the UK ones, but i think this is asking a bit to much for it. My guess is that all these pressings are "translucent" red when held to the light, at least that's the fact with mine, though i had no idea about THAT Wink

Any more info on this pressing?
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Post 2009-07-31 07:43   [Quote] 
Wow! I also had no idea about that Shocked

However, i do have 2 copies, one with and one without Punky's listed on the backcover, both are "translucent".

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Post 2009-07-31 21:18   [Quote] 
I have heard about this translucent pressing before - and I do not think they are rare at all!

All of the copies I have seen that do not have Punky's Whips have been translucent red.

Does anyone have a copy without Punky's that is not translucent red ?

I think people just think they are rare because no-one actually held one up to the light until quite recently.

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Post 2009-12-11 23:19   [Quote] 
Just updating this page with a link through to another ebay auction.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300372157327&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:GB:1123

Collectors - please check your UK pressings of ZINY - does anyone have a copy without Punky's that is not translucent red ?

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Post 2010-01-06 18:43   [Quote] 
ZINY UK Discreet K69204 Testpressing (Censored)

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Post 2010-01-16 16:47   [Quote] 
Two more ZINY's
23 ZINY GER/NL DISCREET DIS 69204 1978 S 2LP Made In Germany /back cover has (O) /LC 3152/Side 1,2,3,4/ STEMRA/ No reference to "Punky's Whips"
23 ZINY ITA DISCREET W 69204 (WA/WB) 1977 S 2LP No reference to "Punky's Whips"/Made In Italy by WEA ITALIANA S.p.A. Distribuzione Messaggerie Musicali, Milano/Spine has:1198 (P)1977
And one correction
23 ZINY UK DISCREET K 69204 1977 S 2LP Testpressing (Censored) / "translucent red" Vinyl
This testpressing has 2 LPs and a full cover wich indicates "Punky's Whips"

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ITA Discreet W469204/A/B - 1978 - 2 cassettes
Jap Discreet P-6340W - 1977 - White Label Promo No reference to "Punky's Whips"
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"23 ZINY FRA ZAPPA CDDZAP 37 1991 S 2CD w/ Punky's Whips / 4 Bonus Tracks / Made in France" with a "I.R.S. 973737" and new barcode sticker over the original barcode here.

The "23 ZINY FRA Label? FZNY 4412 19?? S 2CD? Counterfeit CD / Jewel Case" is a single CD.
No info about the label, but a "GEMA" on the CD Mr. Green
Cover is a copy of "23 ZINY GER DISCREET DIS 69204 1977 S 2LP with "Punky's Whips" (Existence questionable)" with CD DIS 69 204 (2D 2290) ADD (O) on back cover
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Post 2010-04-22 18:07   [Quote] 
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23 ZINY FRA ZAPPA ZAPPA 37 1991 S 2LP w/ Punky's Whips / SideA,B,C,D


Well of course this is technically a UK issue (by Music For Nations), but most notably it's the 1991 CD mix, though omitting the "bonus tracks" from the double CD. Titties & beer is 7:17 here (the intro to the segued Cruisin' has been edited out) while the original vinyl version is 5:28. However, both the cover & the label has it wrongly listed as being 6:28 Surprised
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