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Hasi
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Post 2009-04-10 23:01   [Quote] 
19: US Vinyl

19 R&E US DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Yellow Discreet Label Promo: DISCREET RECORDS INC. … MADE IN USA / FOC: WCC; w/Promo sticker / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 86-7

19 R&E US DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: DISCREET RECORDS INC. … MADE IN USA ; Cat. No. left / FOC: WCC; / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 86-8
19 R&E US DISCREET 2DS 2202 1977 S 2LP Label: DISCREET RECORDS INC. … MADE IN USA ; Cat. No. right / FOC: WCC; / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 86-9

UK Vinyl

19 R&E UK DISCREET K 69201 1974 S 2LP Label: Made in UK above SIDE, no Fact. or Licencee / FOC: WCC, Gothic Print Finishers /Side 1,4,2,3 (mislabeled 1,2,3,4)/GZ: 85-11
19 R&E UK DISCREET K 69201 1977 S 2LP Label: Made in UK above SIDE, WCC / FOC: WCC, Gothic Print Finishers / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 85-12

Vinyl Re-Issues

19 R&E US BPR BPR 9999-5 1987 S 2LP Purple Label: SIDE 9/10, "THE OLD MASTERS Box Three" / = part of OMB 3 / GZ: 86-10
19 R&E FRA ZAPPA ZAPPA 39 1992 S 2LP Blue Label: MUSIC FOR NATIONS, MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: DMM; Made in England /Original mix of "Cheepnis"/Side A,B,C,D/GZ: 85-10

German Vinyl

19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 89200 (O) 1974 S 2LP White Label Promo: A DISCREET… WEA DIS 89200 (O) / FOC / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 85-3

19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 89200 (O) 1974 S 2LP Label: A DISCREET… WEA DIS 89200 (O) / FOC / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 85-4
19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 89200 1975 S 2LP Label: A DISCREET… WEA DIS 89200; LC 3152 / FOC / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 85-5

19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 89200 1976 S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; no Factory or Licencee… DIS 89200; LC 3152 / FOC / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 85-6
19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 89200 1977 S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; DIS 89200; LC 3152 / FOC: DIS 89200 (O), WEA, WCC; LC 3152; / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 85-7

19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197? S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
19 R&E GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197? S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC, LC 3152, GEMA / FOC: unknown / GZ: na

19 R&E GER DISCREET K 69201 198? S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152, Hit Songs Ltd. / FOC: unknown / GZ: na

International Vinyl

19 R&E NL DISCREET DIS 89200 1974 S 2LP Label: STEMRA right; DISCREET RECORDS INC. … MADE IN HOLLAND / FOC / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 86-4
19 R&E NL DISCREET DIS 89200 1977 S 2LP Label: STEMRA left; ALLE URHEBER-…MADE IN GERMANY... WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: LC 3152; / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: na
          Both FOCs for the Dutch pressings above have WEA, WCC, and DIS 89200 (O)

19 R&E FRA DISCREET No 69201 1974 S 2LP Label: SACEM right; DISCREET RECORDS INC. .. MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: WEA filipacchi; WCC; O x 1 /Side A,B,C,D /GZ: 85-9
19 R&E FRA DISCREET No 69201 1974 S 2LP Label: SACEM right; TOUS DROITS.. MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: WEA filipacchi; WCC; O x 1 / Side A,B,C,D / GZ: na
19 R&E FRA DISCREET DIS 69201 1977 S 2LP Label: SACEM left; ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: WEA filipacchi, 69201, WE 322 sticker / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: na

19 R&E ESP REPRISE 500-101/2 S 1975 S 2LP Reprise Label: no ESTEREO; HISPAVOX, S.A.; no MADRID, S.G.A.E. /FOC: front REPRISE, back DISCREET/Side 1,2,3,4/GZ: na
19 R&E ESP REPRISE 500-101/2 S 1975 S 2LP Reprise Label: no ESTEREO; HISPAVOX, S.A., MADRID / FOC: unknown / GZ: 85-8

19 R&E SWE DISCREET 2DS 2202 1975 S 2LP Discreet Label: NCB, ALL RIGHTS… ; no Factory or Licencee / FOC: WCC; SIB TUMBA / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: 86-6 has SWE, DNK

19 R&E YUG WB/SUZY DIS 89200 1975 S 2LP Green WB- Label: SOKOJ / FOC: WEA, WCC; OPSET STAMPA BEOGRAD / Side 1,2,3,4 / SUZY Records Production / GZ: na

19 R&E CAN DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: WEA / FOC: CONTAINS 2 RECORDS...; WEA, WCC; maple-leaf / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 85-2
19 R&E CAN DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: WEA / FOC: SPECIALLY PRICED TWO...; WEA, WCC; no maple-leaf / Side 1,4,2,3 / GZ: 85-2
          Both FOCs for the Canadian pressings above have LITHO IN CANADA on the spine and … 1810 BIRCHMOUNT RD… on the back cover.

19 R&E JAP DISCREET P 5173/4D 1974 S 2LP White Discreet Label Promo: short rim: WARNER PIONEER…. / GZ: 86-1
19 R&E JAP DISCREET P 5173/4D 1974 S 2LP Yellow Discreet Label: long rim: WARNER-PIONEER , WARNER BROS... / w/Insert / GZ: 86-2

19 R&E AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: Boosey & Hawkes, MX173508, Manufactured and Distributed in Australia ... from WEA Records Pty. Ltd. / GZ: 85-1
19 R&E AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: Boosey & Hawkes, MX173508, Manufactured and Distributed BY WEA Records Pty. Ltd. / GZ: na

19 R&E NZ REPRISE RS 2202 1974 S 2LP Reprise Label: RS 2202, MADE IN N.Z. BY EMI……… ….SEVEN ARTS INC. / Cover: unknown / GZ: 86-5

19 R&E KOR YEGRIN K-1045 1975 S 2LP White Label: MANUFACTURED BY YEGRIN RECORD CO SEOUL KOREA / Cover: "blue" / GZ: 86-3

19 R&E RSA DISCREET DSD 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: DISCREET … MADE IN USA; Intersong / FOC: inner spread upside-down! WCC; artone press /Side 1,2,3,4/GZ: 86-11

Original CD Cheepnis appears remixed and as original mix

19 R&E FRA ZAPPA CDZAP 39 1992 S CD original mix of Cheepnis / Made in France
19 R&E US BPR D2-74241 1992 S CD early pressings feature the original mix of Cheepnis
19 R&E US BPR D2-74241 1992 S CD later pressings feature the remix of Cheepnis
19 R&E JAP RYKO VACK 5082 1992 S CD Cat No. Correct ???

"1995" CD New master. New timing sheet. Restored artwork. New FZ-approved remix of Cheepnis

19 R&E US RYKO RCD 10520 1995 S CD "Cheepnis" is remixed
19 R&E AUS RYKO/Festival D 31429 1995 S CD
19 R&E JAP RYKO VACK 5082 1995 S CD All Lyrics
19 R&E JAP RYKO VACK 5217 1998 S CD All Lyrics / re-numbered 1995 CD
19 R&E JAP RYKO VACK-1219 2001 S CD Cardboard Sleeve / Ltd. Edt. of 2000 copies / Obi / Lyrics / FOC

2012 ZAPPA/Universal (UME) reissues

19 R&E EU ZAPPA/UME 0238522 2012 S CD Source: 1992 1630 Digital Master / GRAND RIGHTS / Digitally remastered by Stephen Marcussen 1990 / 2012-08-28

Cassettes

19 R&E US? DISCREET D 52202 19?? S CASS
19 R&E AUS DISCREET J5R 2202 19?? S CASS
19 R&E US BPR D4 74241 1992 S CASS
19 R&E UK ZAPPA TZAPPA 39 1992 S CASS Original mix of "Cheepnis"
19 R&E US RYKO RAC 10520 1995 S CASS Manufactured in Canada / "Analogue"

8 - Tracks

19 R&E US DISCREET DIS 2 ? 2202 1974 S 8-T "Double Play - Equal to TWO ALBUMS"
19 R&E US DISCREET 82202 1974 S 8-T
19 R&E AUS Label? Cat.No.? 19?? S 8-T

Reel - to - Reel ?

Test Pressings, Misprints, Bootlegs, "Maybes",....

19 R&E US Columbia Records 2D-2202 197? S 2LP White Label Testpressing
19 R&E UK MAYKING REC. ZAPPA 39 1991 S 2LP Testpressing / 25.11.91 / 5.12.91 / White Inner Sleeves - No Cover
19 R&E FRA DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP FOC
19 R&E AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP glossy sleeve
19 R&E AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP matt sleeve
19 R&E US DISCREET? ? 1974 Q 2LP unreleased (?) quadrophonic LP
19 R&E FRA DISCREET 54374 199? S CD Cardboard Sleeve, Counterfeit! / Matrix: CDT-BERLIN 54374 01" and "Z 700423" on the back of the cardboard sleeve
19 R&E ??? Z 700423 54374 199? S CD Jewel Case, Counterfeit! / Matrix: CDT-BERLIN 54374 01

A load of labels: http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/roxyandelswhere.html

IINK: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Roxy_and_Elsewhere.html

Patio: http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/roxy.html

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Post 2009-05-27 14:14   [Quote] 
Additions:

Vinyl

US Columbia Records 2D-2202 (White Label Testpressing)
US Discreet 2DS 2202-2 (Yellow Label Promo)
GER Discreet 89200 in at least 3 variations:
          Discreet DIS 89200 (White Label Promo)
          Discreet DIS 89200 (Yellow Label)
          WEA Discreet 89200-0 (Yellow Label)
SP Reprise 500-101/2 (Brown Label)
AUS Discreet 2DS 2202 in 2 variations:
          glossy cover
          matt cover
SAF Discreet DSD 2202 (Yellow Label)

CD

AUS Ryko/Festival D 31429 (1995)
FR Discreet 54374 (cardboard), Counterfeit

Cassette

AUS Discreet J5R 2202
US Barking Pumpkin Records BPR D4 74241 (1992)

8-Track also from AUS
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Post 2010-03-21 10:26   [Quote] 
I have a 19 R&E FRA ZAPPA CDZAP 39 1992 S CD original mix of Cheepnis / Made in France with a sticker "I.R.S. 970739" and new barcode over the original barcode.

The "19 R&E FRA DISCREET 54374 ? S CD Cardboard Sleeve, Counterfeit!" has the "Matrix: CDT-BERLIN 54374 01" too and "Z 700423" on the back of the cardboard sleeve. Year should be 199?
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Post 2010-12-19 16:31   [Quote] 
2 versions of the CAN. the records are identical, the difference is in the cover

CAN DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Spine has Litho In Canada / front cover has: Specially Priced../ no maple-leaf on back / matrix hand-written / Side 1,4,2,3
CAN DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Spine has Litho In Canada / front cover has: Contains 2 Records../ maple-leaf on back / matrix hand-written / Side 1,4,2,3
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Post 2010-12-29 10:07   [Quote] 
19 R&E NL/GER DISCREET DIS 89200 1977 S 2LP WEA / Side 1,2,3,4 / back-cover has (O) /Cover has Made in Germany / Label has STEMRA, but not made in Holland
Label is the same as the German 1977 pressing, the only difference is STEMRA in stead of GEMA

19 R&E JAP DISCREET/WB-Pioneer P 5173/4D 1974 S 2LP Yellow DISCREET Label (With insert)

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Post 2013-01-27 22:09   [Quote] 
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19 R&E US BPR D2-74241 1992 S CD Cheepnis is remixed


Early pressings with same catalog# have original mix of Cheepnis.
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Post 2013-01-28 10:54   [Quote] 
3 more GER with different numbers. They all look like GZ: 85.7, one with and the other two without GEMA.

GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC, GEMA; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
GER DISCREET K 69201 198x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na

another AUS

AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: 2DS 2202, Boosey & Hawkes, X173508, Manufactured and Distributed by WEA Records Pty. Ltd. / GZ: na

2 more FRA

FRA DISCREET No 69201 1974 S 2LP Label: SACEM right; TOUS DROITS.. MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: WEA filipacchi; WCC; O x 1 / Side A,B,C,D / GZ: na
FRA DISCREET DIS 69201 1977 S 2LP Label: SACEM left; ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: WEA filipacci, 69201, WE 322 sticker / Side 1,2,3,4 / GZ: na
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detritus wrote:

another AUS

AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: 2DS 2202, Boosey & Hawkes, X173508, Manufactured and Distributed by WEA Records Pty. Ltd. / GZ: na


X173508 or MX173508 ?

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Post 2013-01-28 11:24   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:
detritus wrote:

another AUS

AUS DISCREET 2DS 2202 1974 S 2LP Label: 2DS 2202, Boosey & Hawkes, X173508, Manufactured and Distributed by WEA Records Pty. Ltd. / GZ: na


X173508 or MX173508 ?


MX, would have a small and blurred picture if needed.
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detritus wrote:
MX, would have a small and blurred picture if needed.


Thanx, and all pics are more than welcome - makes things much easier Smile

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Post 2013-01-28 15:32   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:
detritus wrote:
MX, would have a small and blurred picture if needed.


Thanx, and all pics are more than welcome - makes things much easier Smile


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GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
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GER DISCREET DIS 69201 197x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC, GEMA; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
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GER DISCREET K 69201 198x S 2LP Label: ALLE URHEBER-…; WEA, WCC; LC 3152 / FOC: unknown / GZ: na
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Post 2013-01-28 23:17   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
Early pressings with same catalog# have original mix of Cheepnis.


Thanx, included as of now.

detritus wrote:
alright alright


Thanx for the detailed updates! I did modify the Australien description, just a bit;

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