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Post 2009-04-10 23:01   [Quote] 
US Vinyl

16 GW US BIZARRE MS 2093 1972 S LP White Label Promo: RE1 left, WARNER-7ARTS / FOC: w/Sticker / Ref. 73-2
16 GW US BIZARRE MS 2093 1972 S LP Blue Bizarre Label: RE1 left, WARNER-7ARTS / FOC / Ref. 73-3

16 GW US REPRISE MS 2093 1976 S LP Brown Reprise Label: RE1 left, STEREO, Reprise Records…3300 Warner Blvd….WCC, Made in U.S.A. / Ref. 73-4
16 GW US REPRISE MS 2093 1976 S LP Brown Reprise Label: (RE 1) right, no STEREO, Reprise Records…3300 Warner Blvd….WCC, Made in U.S.A. / Ref. 73-5

16 GW US BPR BPR 9999-2 1987 S LP Purple Label: SIDE 3/4, "THE OLD MASTERS Box Three" / = part of OMB 3 / Ref. 73-6

UK Vinyl

16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 1972 S LP Brown Label: no UK, no "v", no Factory or Licencee / FOC: unknown / Ref. 72-2
16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 1973 S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above SIDE, no "v", no Factory or Licencee / FOC: Howards Printers (Slough) Ltd. / GZ: na (72-25)
16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 1977 S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above SIDE, no "v", WCC / FOC: unknown / Ref. 72-3
16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 1979 S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above SIDE, "v", WCC / FOC: Gothic Print Finishers / Ref. 72-4
16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 197? S LP Brown Label: Manufactured in UK, WCC / GZ: na

German Vinyl

16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1972 S LP White Label Promo: A WARNER BROS. … KINNEY… / FOC: Kinney / GZ: na
16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: A WARNER BROS. … KINNEY… / FOC: unknown / Ref. 71-7
16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: A WARNER BROS. … KINNEYWEA below STEREO / FOC: Kinney / GZ: na (71-75)

16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1973 S LP Brown Reprise Label: A REPRISE…WEA …ALL RIGHTS... / FOC: Kinney / Ref. 71-8
16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1974 S LP Brown Reprise Label: A REPRISE…WEA …ALL RIGHTS..., LC0322 / FOC: (B), Kinney / GZ: na (71-85)
16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1975 S LP Brown Reprise Label: A REPRISE…WEA …ALLE URHEBER-..., LC0322 / FOC: (B), Kinney, LC0322 / Ref.71-9

16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1976 S LP Brown Reprise Label: ALLE URHEBER… no Factory or Licensee, LC0322 / FOC: unknown / Ref. 71-10
16 GW GER REPRISE REP 44209 1977 S LP Brown Reprise Label: ALLE URHEBER…, WEA, WCC, LC0322 / FOC: (Z), WEA, France: WE 341, LC 0322 / Ref. 71-11

International Vinyl

16 GW AUT REPRISE REP 44209 1972 S LP Brown Label: A WARNER BROS. … KINNEY… , Austro Mechana / FOC: Kinney / Made in Germany / GZ: na

16 GW NL REPRISE REP 44209 1972 S LP Brown Label: STEMRA, A WARNER BROS. ...MADE IN HOLLAND BY N.V.NEGRAM / FOC: Kinney, Made in Germany / Ref. 72-12
16 GW NL REPRISE REP 44209 1977 S LP Brown Label: STEMRA, ALLE URHEBER…, WEA, WCC, LC0322 / FOC: (Z), WEA, France: WE 341, LC 0322, Made in Germany / GZ: na

16 GW FRA REPRISE No 44209 1973 S LP Brown Label: ALL RIGHTS… / FOC: unknown / Ref. 71-12
16 GW FRA REPRISE No 44209 1975 S LP Brown Label: TOUS DROITS…MADE IN FRANCE. / FOC: (B), WEA FILIPACCHI / Spine: OFFSET FRANCE, imprime en FRANCE /Ref. 72-1
Both French copies have For Calvin (And next two hitchhikers) on the label - without his

16 GW ITA BIZARRE K 44209 1973 S LP Blue Bizarre Label: DISCHI RICORDI / Ref. 72-6
16 GW ITA REPRISE W 44209 1975 S LP Brown Reprise Label: WEA ITALIANA, WCC / FOC: WEA Italiana SpA, black spine / M: 15/9/75 / Ref. 72-7
16 GW ITA DISCREET W 44209 1975 S LP Discreet Label: WEA ITALIANA / FOC: unknown / M: 5/9/75 / GZ: na (HdS)

16 GW GRE REPRISE 44209 1980 S LP Brown Reprise Label: PolyGram G.P.I., BIEM / Ref. 72-5

16 GW CAN REPRISE MS 2093 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: RE1, WEA / FOC: … WEA MUSIC OF CANADA…, Spine: PRINTED IN USA / Ref. 71-5
16 GW CAN REPRISE MS 2093 1976 S LP Brown Reprise Label: RE1, WEA, WCC / FOC: … WEA MUSIC OF CANADA…, Spine: PRINTED IN USA / Ref. 71-6

16 GW JAP REPRISE P-8306R 1972 S LP White Label Promo / GZ: na
16 GW JAP REPRISE P-8306R 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: WARNER-PIONEER / Ref. 82-8

16 GW AUS REPRISE MS 2093 1973 S LP Yellow Reprise Label: (Boosey & Hawkes), MX169037, … MANUFACTURED IN AUSTRALIA BY A REGISTERED USER… / Ref. 71-3

16 GW NZ REPRISE RS.2093 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: Boosey & Hawkes, MADE IN NEW ZEALAND BY HIS MASTER'S VOICE (N.Z.) LTD.... / Ref. 72-10
16 GW NZ REPRISE MS 2093 1975 S LP Brown Reprise Label: Boosey & Hawkes, WEA Records Ltd., MADE IN N.Z. BY EMI... / Ref. 72-11

16 GW ARG REPRISE/MH 14.052 1973 S LP White Label Promo: MUSIC HALL, SADAIC, COMAR, Serie SUPER LUJO ESPECIAL / Ref. 71-1
16 GW ARG REPRISE/MH 14.052 1973 S LP Orange-Brown Reprise Label: MUSIC HALL, SADAIC, COMAR, Serie SUPER LUJO ESPECIAL / Ref. 71-2

16 GW BRA REPRISE RLLP 2.020 1973 S LP Brown Reprise Label: Gravacoes Eletricas S/A., Stereo Compativel Mono / Ref. 71-4

16 GW MEX REPRISE/GAMMA GX 01-587 1972? S LP 3-colour Reprise Label: GAMMA, no ESTEREO / Single Sleeve: ESTEREO / Ref. 72-9

16 GW URU REPRISE 130016 197? S LP Brown Reprise Label: CLAVE I.E.M.S.A., STEREO / Cover: unknown / Ref. 73-1

16 GW RSA REPRISE RRC 2093 1972 S LP Brown Label: Intersong, ...PRESSED FOR OR BY A REGISTERED USER / Single Sleeve: lamin. flip-back, artone press / Ref. 73-7

Original CD

16 GW US RYKO RCD 10026 1986 S CD back-cover has Manufactured in Japan, Disc has Manufactured in the USA
16 GW JAP RYKO RCD 10026 1986 S CD back-cover & disc have manufactured in Japan
16 GW AUS RYKO/Festival D 40707 1986 S CD an US RCD 10026 imported into Australia by Festival Records and re-stickered Ryko D 40707

"1990" CD digitally remixed at UMRK 1990

16 GW FRA ZAPPA CDZAP 31 1990 S CD digitally remixed at UMRK 1990 / Made In France
16 GW JAP RYKO VACK 5033 1986 S CD 1986 or 1990 ???

"1995" CD new master with a higher output level / reversed running order

16 GW US RYKO RCD 10517 1995 S CD Printed in the USA. Manufactured in Canada
16 GW AUS RYKO/Festival D 31428 1995 S CD
16 GW RUS GP SSR GP SSR 000150 S CD Twofer-CD w/BWS / Counterfeit (?)
16 GW JAP RYKO VACK 5124 1995 S CD All Lyrics
16 GW JAP RYKO VACK 5259 1998 S CD All Lyrics / re-numbered 1995 CD
16 GW JAP RYKO VACK-1216 2001 S CD Cardboard Sleeve / Ltd. Edt. of 2000 copies / Obi / Lyrics / Foc. / Bizarre Inners / Sticker
16 GW BRA RYKO/Eldorado 968004 1998 S CD
16 GW US RYKO RCD 40583/3 2002 S CD THREESOME No.2 / CD 3 of this 3-CD-Box Set with Hot Rats and Waka/Jawaka

Cassettes

16 GW AUS REPRISE M 52093 S CASS
16 GW POL Label? Cat. No.? S CASS "Frank Zappa Collection" / Counterfeit?

8 - Tracks

16 GW US REPRISE REP M8 2093 S 8-T

Reel - to - Reel

16 GW US BIZARRE/REPRISE RST-2093C S R2R 7.5 IPS

Test Pressings, Misprints, Bootlegs, "Maybes",....

16 GW IRS 970.731 CD (?)
16 GW FRA Echantillion Societe KM 44289 S LP White Label Testpressing

A load of labels: http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/grandwazoo.html

IINK: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Grand_Wazoo.html

Zappa.com: http://www.zappa.com/fz/discography/1972grandwazoo.html

Patio: http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/wazoo.html

Grand Zappa check: done;

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Post 2009-05-26 05:15   [Quote] 
Additions:

Vinyl

US Bizarre MS 2093 (White Label Promo)
FR Echantillion Societe KM 44289 (White Label Testpressing)
GER WEA Reprise 44209 (White Label Promo)
IT Reprise W 44209 (Brown Label)
GR Reprise 44209 (Brown Label)
JP Reprise P-8306R in 2 variations:
          (White Label Promo)
          (Brown Label Regular)
ARG Music Hall MH 14.052 (White Label Promo)
UR Reprise 130016 (Yellow Label)
BRA Reprise RLLP 2020 (Yellow Label, 1973)

CD

JP Ryko RCD 10026 (1986)
AUS Ryko/Festival Records D 31428 (1995)
US Ryko RCD 40583/3 (2003, part of "Threesome #2)
RUS GP SSR 000150 (with BWS), probably counterfeit!

Cassette

AUS Reprise M5 2093
POL "Frank Zappa Collection" (counterfeit?)
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Post 2010-01-15 14:49   [Quote] 
has the FRA REPRISE No 44209 the typo "FOR CALVIN (And next two hitchhikers)" - no "His" ?
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Post 2010-01-15 14:59   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
has the FRA REPRISE No 44209 the typo "FOR CALVIN (And next two hitchhikers)" - no "His" ?


Yes Sir! thumbsup

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Post 2010-02-18 20:32   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:

16 GW US REPRISE (?) M 82093 S 8-T


I have this - I don't know what the 16 GW refers to but mine is a US Reprise. The only numbers are
REP M8 2093

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Post 2010-02-26 15:34   [Quote] 
another US CD here

- US RYKO RCD 10026 1986 S CD back-cover & disc have manufactured in Japan

about the UK version. i'm quite sure there is at least 3 more.

- UK REPRISE K 44209 1973 S LP Label has 1972 / no "made in UK" on label / no Warner on label
- UK REPRISE K 44209 1973 S LP Label has 1972 / "made in UK" on label / no Warner on label
- UK REPRISE K 44209 1973 S LP Label has 1972 / "manufactured in the UK" on label / ...A Warner Communications

Company.."W"

unfortunately i also only have the Gothic UK version, for the 3 others i have pictures if needed.
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Post 2010-02-26 17:09   [Quote] 
StatusBaby wrote:
I don't know what the 16 GW refers to


16 is the Record number in terms of "official releases" (which of course is, especially in the eighties, sometimes arguable), and GW is the abbreviated title of the record.

Both are included for each entry to make for an easier identification.

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Post 2012-02-06 20:17   [Quote] 
thanks for the update, very helpful to try to fill in some gaps.

I was struggling for a while with the UK entries, they look slightly odd.
Shouldn't GZ 72.3 have a WCC in the description?

The one currently described as 72.3 could read
16 GW UK REPRISE K 44209 1973 S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above SIDE , no "v", no Factory or Licencee / FOC: Howards Printers (Slough) Ltd. / GZ: na
At least one of my copies looks like that.

GZ 71.7: Got an almost identical copy here with added WEA on the label. Likely the 2nd DE version, date 72/73, FOC: Kinney.
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detritus wrote:

I was struggling for a while with the UK entries, they look slightly odd.
Shouldn't GZ 72.3 have a WCC in the description?


Yeah sure, fixed, hope i've got it right now.

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Post 2012-02-07 19:18   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:

Yeah sure, fixed, hope i've got it right now.


cheers!

What do your sudden new notes in the brackets mean? GZ: na (71-85) or (HdS)?
Maybe I'm just tired.
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detritus wrote:
Hasi wrote:

Yeah sure, fixed, hope i've got it right now.


cheers!

What do your sudden new notes in the brackets mean? GZ: na (71-85) or (HdS)?
Maybe I'm just tired.


I suppose those entries found on http://www.afka.net/books/Grand_Zappa.htm
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Post 2012-02-07 20:05   [Quote] 
Al Fresco wrote:
detritus wrote:
Hasi wrote:

Yeah sure, fixed, hope i've got it right now.


cheers!

What do your sudden new notes in the brackets mean? GZ: na (71-85) or (HdS)?
Maybe I'm just tired.


I suppose those entries found on http://www.afka.net/books/Grand_Zappa.htm


No, I don't think so. 'GZ: na' means not available in the Grand Zappa book, so the entries in these
new brackets reference to something else. Maybe some private notes by Hasi.
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Post 2012-02-07 20:23   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
What do your sudden new notes in the brackets mean? GZ: na (71-85) or (HdS)?


Those with numbers in brackets (like 71-85) mean they belong between 2 numbers in GZ, in this case between 71-8 and 71-9.

I didn' know of a better way to "mark" them.

HdS was (is) a personal note and means Harry de Swart, which further means there is a picture of this copy on
http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/grandwazoo.html
I guess i should remove them.

Sorry for putting up those "new" identifers with out explaining them.

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Post 2012-02-07 20:44   [Quote] 
Thanks, that clears things up.

I do find the (71-85) reference a bit confusing. Maybe we could think about another way of wording/marking it, or have a footnote somewhere about the meaning of all these numbers.

The Harry de Swart reference is actually a nice idea. It makes sense to reference external sources if there isn't a picture in GZ or on zappateers.
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detritus wrote:
I do find the (71-85) reference a bit confusing. Maybe we could think about another way of wording/marking it, or have a footnote somewhere about the meaning of all these numbers.


Yeah true, they were helpfull for sorting them within "my" list before putting the stuff on the net, but right now they are probably obsolet and confusing.
I'm gonna remove them at the next update and will not continue using them on the next one (OS,...).

A footnote/abreviation-catalogue or similar might indeed be a good idea, either as a permanent ending for each official record after the links or as a sticky in the beginning of the OR-Forum....

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The Harry de Swart reference is actually a nice idea. It makes sense to reference external sources if there isn't a picture in GZ or on zappateers.


I'm not planning to have that for each applicable entry, but that particular one seemed appropriate as in this case DISCREET could have been mistaken as an error.

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