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Post 2009-04-10 23:01   [Quote] 
US Vinyl

9 BWS US BIZARRE RS 6370 1970 S LP White Label Promo: WARNER 7ARTS / FOC: w/Folder / GZ: Ref. 47-5
9 BWS US BIZARRE RS 6370 1970 S LP Blue Bizarre Labels: with Vacuumpump, WARNER 7ARTS / FOC: w/Folder / GZ: Ref. 47-6
9 BWS US BIZARRE RS 6370 1976 S LP Blue Bizarre Labels: no Vacuumpump, WCC / FOC / GZ: Ref. 47-7
9 BWS US REPRISE RS 6370 1980 S LP Brown Reprise Label: WCC / GZ: Ref. 47-8

UK Vinyl

9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370 1970 S LP 3-colour Reprise Label: PYE (blacked out), Typo: IGOR'S BOOKIE.. / FOC: Dist. by CBS; Garrod & Lofthouse, circular "r", "w7"/GZ: Ref. 46-8

9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370/K 44083 1971 S LP 3-colour Reprise Label and FOC: as above, but re-stickered K 44083 on cover and/or label
9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370 / K 44083 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: K44083, no mention of "UK", no "v", no Factory or Licencee / FOC: unknown
9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370/K 44083 1973 S LP Brown Label: K 44083, Made in UK under "SIDE ONE", "v", no Factory or Licencee / FOC: RSLP 6370, as above/Ref.46-9 has WEA

9 BWS UK REPRISE K 44083 1976 S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above "SIDE ONE", "v", WCC / FOC: coloured spine, WEA, WCC; / (RS 6370 etc. made illegible)/GZ: Ref. 46-10
9 BWS UK REPRISE K 44083 197? S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above "SIDE ONE", "v", WCC / FOC: white spine, Dist. By WEA; Garrod & Lofthouse, square "r"
9 BWS UK REPRISE K 44083 197? S LP Brown Label: Made in UK above "SIDE ONE", "v", WCC / FOC: white spine, Dist. By WEA; Garrod & Lofthouse, square "r" / different matrix

International Vinyl

9 BWS GER REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Orange-Brown Reprise Label: circular "r", "w7", TELDEC / FOC: title in red, 5 Stars / GZ: Ref. 45-6
9 BWS GER REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Brown Reprise Label: square "r", TELDEC-TELEFUNKEN-DECCA / FOC: unknown
9 BWS GER REPRISE 44083 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: square "r", KINNEY / GZ: Ref. 46-1
9 BWS GER REPRISE REP 44083 1975 S LP Brown Reprise Label: square "r", WEA, WCC, LC 0322/ FOC: (U), France: WE 341 , LC 0322 / title in red / GZ: Ref. 46-3

9 BWS FRA REPRISE SRV. 6116 1971 S LP Brown Label: circular "r", w7, WARNER-SEVEN ARTS, VOGUE, D.R. / Single flip-back Sleeve: by COLOMBET / "Stereo" / GZ: Ref. 46-4
9 BWS FRA REPRISE No 44083 1972 S LP Brown Label: small square "r", long English-only text on rim: "ALL RIGHTS OF THE…" / FOC: unknown / GZ: Ref. 46-5 has MPO
9 BWS FRA REPRISE No 44083 197? S LP Brown Label: small square "r", short English-only text on rim: "REPRISE RECORDS, A DIVISION…" / FOC: KINNEY, B
9 BWS FRA REPRISE No 44083 1975 S LP Brown Label: square "r", long French-English text on rim: "TOUS DROITS DU...…MADE IN FRANCE." / FOC: WEA, WCC; WE341 / GZ: Ref. 46-6 has MPO

9 BWS ITA REPRISE SRI 6370 1970 S LP Orange-Brown Reprise Label: C.G.D., STEREOMONO/Single Sleeve: white spine/Matrix: 6.5.70/Promo-Sticker on Label/GZ: Ref. 47-1
9 BWS ITA REPRISE K 44083 1973 S LP Blue Bizarre Label: DISCHI RICORDI / FOC:Typo on white spine: BURNT WEENY SANDWICK / Matrix: 27 6 72 and 16.6.72 / GZ: Ref 47-2

9 BWS GRE REPRISE 44083 S LP Brown Reprise Label: Polygram, G.P.I. / GZ: Ref. 46-12

9 BWS CAN REPRISE RS 6370 1972 S LP 3-colour Reprise Label: WARNER-7ARTS, probably FOC / GZ: Ref. 45-4
9 BWS CAN REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Brown Reprise Label / FOC
9 BWS CAN REPRISE RS 6370 1975 S LP Brown Reprise Label: WEA, WCC, square "r" / Single Sleeve: circular "r", "w7" / GZ: Ref. 45-5

9 BWS AUS REPRISE RS-6370 1972 S LP Brown Reprise Label: square "r", MX164890 / rim: …MANUFACTURED IN AUSTRALIA BY A REGISTERED USER… / GZ: Ref. 45-3
9 BWS AUS REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Laminated and Matt Sleeve versions reported

9 BWS NZ REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Single Sleeve

9 BWS ARG REPRISE/MH 14.011 1972 S LP White Label Promo: MONO/ESTEREO COMPATIBLE, COMAR / Imaginaro Sandwich Quemado / GZ: Ref. 45-1
9 BWS ARG REPRISE/MH 14.011 1972 S LP Orange-Brown Reprise Label: MONO/ESTEREO COMPATIBLE, COMAR / Imaginaro Sandwich Quemado / GZ: Ref. 45-2

9 BWS MEX REPRISE/GAMMA GX 01-397 / GWEA-5066 1972 S LP 3-colour Reprise Label: GAMMA / Single Sleeve: laminated, re-stickered as GWEA-5066 / GZ: Ref. 47-3

9 BWS RSA REPRISE RRC 6370 1970? S LP South Africa

Vinyl Re-Issues

9 BWS US BPR BPR 8888-3 1986 S LP Purple Label has THE OLD MASTERS Box Two / Insert / = part of OMB 2 / labeled Side 7/8 / GZ: Ref. 47-9
9 BWS FRA ZAPPA ZAPPA 35 1991 S LP Blue Label: MUSIC FOR NATIONS, MADE IN FRANCE / FOC: title in black, red spine / GZ: Ref. 46-7
9 BWS UK SIMPLY VINYL SVLP 0025 1998 S LP Brown Label, Ltd. Edt., 180g / Licensed from Rykodisc / (1997?) / GZ: Ref. 46-11

Vinyl Re-Issues as part of Compilations

9+8 HR+BWS NL REPRISE D 116/0 197? S LP "FZ & The MOI" Boek En Plaat / Dutch Book Club Pressing / 500 copies? / contains parts of HR and BWS

9+10 BWS+WRMF GER REPRISE REP 64024(O) 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / GEMA; rim: English-German: A REPRISE RECORDING…, WEA
9+10 BWS+WRMF GER REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / GEMA, LC0322; rim: English-German: A REPRISE RECORDING…, WEA
9+10 BWS+WRMF GER REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / GEMA, LC0322; rim: German-English: ALLE URHEBER- UND ……, WEA, WCC / GZ: Ref. 46-2
9+10 BWS+WRMF GER REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / GEMA, LC0322; rim: German-English: ALLE URHEBER- UND ….., no Factory or Licensee
9+10 BWS+WRMF FRA REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / SACEM, WCC
9+10 BWS+WRMF ITA REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / SIAE, LC0322, WEA, WCC / Import-sticker on bc
9+10 BWS+WRMF NL REPRISE REP 64024 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / STEMRA / GZ: Ref. 47-4
2 Originals Of The Mothers Of Invention comes in a FOC and contains the LPs Burnt Weeny Sandwich and Hot Rats.

Original CD digitally remixed

9 BWS US BPR D2-74239 1991 S CD remix
9 BWS EU ZAPPA CDZAP 35 1991 S CD "Little House..." is 18:42 / Made In France
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK 5081 1991 S CD Cat. No. Correct ???
9 BWS RUS DORA JPCD 981453 199? S CD

"1995" CD uses a new master and FZ cleaned up "audible garbage"

9 BWS US RYKO RCD 10509 1995 S CD digitally remixed / new master
9 BWS AUS RYKO/Festival D 31398 1995 S CD
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK 5081 1995 S CD All Lyrics
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK 5216 1998 S CD All Lyrics / re-numbered 1995 CD
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK-1210 2001 S CD Cardboard Sleeve / Ltd. Edt. of 2000 copies / Obi / Lyrics / FOC / Bizarre Inners / Folder
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK-10599 2005 S CD Cardboard Sleeve
9 BWS JAP RYKO VACK-???? 2008 S CD Cardboard Sleeve

Cassettes

9 BWS UK ZAPPA TZAPPA35 1991 CASS
9 BWS POL CASS "Frank Zappa Collection" / Counterfeit?

Reel-2-Reel

9 BWS US REPRISE RST-6370-B R2R 3.75 IPS

8-Track

9 BWS US REPRISE 8RM 6370 8T
9 BWS AUS 8T

Testpressings, Misprints, Bootlegs, "Maybes",....

9 BWS UK MAYKING REC. ZAPPA 35 1990 S LP Testpressing / 03.10.90 / White Inner Sleeve - No Cover
9 BWS GRE REPRISE 44083 S LP Greece Brown & White Label Testpressing
9 BWS AUS REPRISE RS 6370 1970 S LP Australian White Label Testpressing

9 BWS US RYKO RALP 10509 1995 S LP existence questionable
9 BWS UK REPRISE K 64024 1979 S LP existence questionable

9+8 HR+BWS NL REPRISE D 116/0 1972 S 2LP "FZ & The MOI" / Dutch Book Club Pressing / contains the LPs HR and BWS - existence of 2LP-version unlikely

9+10 BWS+WRMF FRA REPRISE WE 312 1975 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. / existence unlikely
9+10 BWS+WRMF UK REPRISE K 64024 1979 S 2LP 2 Originals Of The M.O.I. existence unlikely

Labels: http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/burntweenysandwich.html

IINK: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Burnt_Weeny_Sandwich.html

Patio: http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/burntweenysandwich.html

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Post 2009-04-28 05:19   [Quote] 
Additions:

Vinyl:

US Bizarre RS 6370 White Label Promo

CAN Reprise RS 6370 3-Color Steamboat Label

GER WEA Reprise 6370 in 3 Variations:
          Brown/Red Steamboat Label
          Brown Label
          Brown Label, Red Title

IT Reprise SRI 6370 2-Color Label Promo, Single Sleeve

GR WEA 44083 in 2 Variations:
          Brown + White Label Testprinting
          Regular

AUS Reprise RS 6370 (not Testpressing) in 2 Variations:
          Laminated Sleeve
          Matt Sleeve

FR Zappa Records Zappa 35 Blue/Black Label, dated 1991

US Ryko RALP 10509 (this is the mentioned 1995 Vinyl)

CD:

US Ryko RCD 10066 (1990)
AUS Ryko/Festival D 31398 (1995)
JP Ryko VACK 10599 (2005) Cardboard Sleeve
JP Ryko VACK (2008) Cardboard Sleeve

Other:

POL Cassette "Frank Zappa Collection" (Counterfeit?)
US Reel-2-Reel Reprise RST-6370-B, 3.75 IPS
AUS 8-Track
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Post 2009-04-30 17:35   [Quote] 
robert wrote:

GER WEA Reprise 6370 in 3 Variations:
Brown/Red Steamboat Label
Brown Label
Brown Label, Red Title


Are there ANY German pressings which do have the tile in black?

robert wrote:

GR WEA 44083 in 2 Variations:
Brown + White Label Testprinting


Is Testprinting the same as Testpressing?

robert wrote:
US Ryko RALP 10509 (this is the mentioned 1995 Vinyl)


Have you (or anybody else) ever seen this one?

robert wrote:
US Ryko RCD 10066 (1990)


This is supposed to be Hot Rats, isn't it?

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Post 2009-04-30 17:41   [Quote] 
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What do you mean by circular "r" / "w7" on this record?
9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370 1970 S LP 1st U.K. Pr. / 3 colour "Pop Series" Reprise Label / "dist. by CBS" / circular "r" / "w7"

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Post 2009-04-30 18:12   [Quote] 
the IT REPRISE 44083 LP Blue Bizarre Label / Title in red... has a white spine with yet another typo: Burnt Weeny SandwiCK. i wonder if all italian copies have that typo.

Hasi, the UK 1st pressing, is it the one with the Igor's BOOKIE typo? I have that version with a K-44083 sticker on the back.
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Post 2009-04-30 18:24   [Quote] 
Here is the label of the first UK pressing with the typo

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Post 2009-05-01 05:12   [Quote] 
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Are there ANY German pressings which do have the tile in black?

Thought so, but I am not sure anymore, maybe I mixed something up.

Quote:
GR WEA 44083 in 2 Variations:
Brown + White Label Testprinting

Is Testprinting the same as Testpressing?

Typo: should be Testpressing, sorry

Quote:
US Ryko RALP 10509 (this is the mentioned 1995 Vinyl)

Have you (or anybody else) ever seen this one?

No, I have not seen it, but it is mentioned in different lists so I always took it as proofed. Anybody else know if this pressing exists?

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US Ryko RCD 10066 (1990)

This is supposed to be Hot Rats, isn't it?


Here I mixed something up definitely!
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Post 2009-05-01 14:51   [Quote] 
the Basic Primer wrote:
Hasi
What do you mean by circular "r" / "w7" on this record?
9 BWS UK REPRISE RSLP 6370 1970 S LP 1st U.K. Pr. / 3 colour "Pop Series" Reprise Label / "dist. by CBS" / circular "r" / "w7"


This means that early pressings had a circular Reprise-logo and the W7 logo on the cover, later pressings have a square Reprise-logo and no w7 logo. Below are some quotes from a Record Collector article from around 1987 which deals with UK FZ-pressings:

1st pressings:
"The words "distributed by Pye Records Ltd" are blacked out, because Warner / Reprise had switched their distribution from Pye to CBS."

2nd pressings:
"At this point Warner / Reprise had established their own U.K. distribution and the late 1970 pressings no longer had "distributed by CBS Records" on the back cover.
The "W7" symbol on the front cover was dropped and the Reprise "R" design was now set in square instead of a circle. "

3rd pressings

"In 1971 the Kinney Corporation took over the entire WB organisation and all U.K. albums (and singles) were renumbered with a "K" prefix."

4th pressings
"Stocks of old covers were used together with new pressings"

the numbering from 3 to 6 is not based on facts, only a combination of guessing and trying to make the differences easily recogniseable.

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Post 2009-05-01 18:27   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
the IT REPRISE 44083 LP Blue Bizarre Label / Title in red... has a white spine with yet another typo: Burnt Weeny SandwiCK. i wonder if all italian copies have that typo.

Hasi, the UK 1st pressing, is it the one with the Igor's BOOKIE typo? I have that version with a K-44083 sticker on the back.


does it have a fold-out cover or single sleeve? And where is the typo, on the spine, the cover or the label?

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Post 2009-05-01 19:27   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:
does it have a fold-out cover or single sleeve? And where is the typo, on the spine, the cover or the label?


gatefold cover, typo on the spine.

side-A matrix: K-44083-1 stamped, plus 27 6 72 by hand.
side-B matrix: K-44083-2 stamped, plus 16.6.72 by hand.

i suppose '72 is the year of the release.
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Post 2009-06-03 00:59   [Quote] 
I must be going crazy. Every time I play my CD of Burnt Weeny Sandwich, I hear speed fluctuations on Aybe Sea. If I'm not crazy, I think the master tape was stretched out and eventually snapped in the beginning of The Little House I Used to Live In, which would explain the abrupt opening chord.
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Post 2010-03-20 14:42   [Quote] 
9 BWS US BIZARRE RS 6370 1970 S LP Blue Bizarre Labels / +Folder

i have two of this one - one has the same green Vacuum-Pump on the blue label like in the picture of detritus and "Distributed by Warner Bros. - Seven Arts Records. Inc."
The other one has an only blue Bizarre label without the Vacuum Pump, " Made in USA by Warner Bros. Records Inc." and no folder in it.
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Fish wrote:
The other one has an only blue Bizarre label without the Vacuum Pump, " Made in USA by Warner Bros. Records Inc


There are also quite a few around of these (i have at least WRMF with this label), i belive them to be counterfeits, although beside of the missing Vacuum Pump they do look legit, especially the sleeve made of heavy cardboard with glued-on back-cover (US-style).

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i also lean towards the "no-pumps" being counterfeits.

even though in the book "Label Kunde Vinyl" the author Frank Wonneberg describes them as being from 1974.
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CAN Reprise RS 6370 Tan Label Gatefold
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