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detritus
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Post 2010-03-14 17:06   [Quote] 
another french

FRA REPRISE No 44078 1971 S LP FOC printed by Offset-France / Dist. By Kinney filipacchi Music / no "B" on back
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Post 2010-03-20 12:05   [Quote] 
here something for the HR bootleg section:

4 + 8 LG + HR RUS ??? TOOCD-050 200? S CD Hot Rats and Lumpy Gravy on one CD
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Post 2010-03-21 15:51   [Quote] 
here a special one Mr. Green
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Post 2010-04-10 08:47   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
another french

FRA REPRISE No 44078 1971 S LP FOC printed by Offset-France / Dist. By Kinney filipacchi Music / no "B" on back


alright, correction. there actually is a "B" here too. once that damn sticker came of it was suddenly there

nevertheless there is at least 2 copies of the B version

FRA REPRISE No 44078 1971 S LP FOC / Imp Offset-France - Imprimé en France / Distr. Kinney filipacchi Music S.A / "B" on back / short text in English on rim
FRA REPRISE No 44078 1971 S LP FOC / Offset-France printed in France / Distr. WEA filipachi Music / "B" on back / long text in French on rim
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Post 2010-05-12 01:37   [Quote] 
Brazilian vinyl - non-gatefold "MOMENTOS HISTORICOS" re-issue in 1979
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Post 2010-05-12 01:39   [Quote] 
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Post 2010-07-20 13:59   [Quote] 
maybe the UK K-44078 needs a closer look. it seems there is a few more.

i only have the last 3, so not totally sure how everything fits into Hasi's list

UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 5th pressing / renumbered / Dist. by KINNEY on back-cover
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 6th ?/ "V" / Label has (P) 1969
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 7th ?/ "Made in UK" under "SIDE ONE" / "V" / Label has (P) 1969
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 8th ?/ "Made in UK" / "V" / Label has (P) 1969
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 9th ?/ "Made in UK" / "V"/ a Warner.. "W" / distributed by WEA RECORDS LTD. on back-cover / Label has (P) 1969 / MacNeill Press Ltd. / Matrix stamped
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 10th ?/ "Made in UK" / "V" / a Warner.. "W" / distributed by WEA RECORDS LTD. on back-cover / Label has (P) 1969 / CMCS Print & Colour Ltd. / Matrix: side 1 handwritten, side 2 stamped
UK REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP 11th ?/ "Manufactured in the UK" / "V" / a Warner.. "W" / distributed by WEA RECORDS LTD. on back-cover / Label has (P) 1969 / CMCS Print & Colour Ltd. / Matrix: side 1 handwritten, side 2 stamped
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Post 2010-07-20 17:35   [Quote] 
Great research detritus!!!!

I'll try to sort that out and include to the list. Will take some weeks, though, the weather is too good to spend hours indoors. cooler

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Post 2010-08-30 18:14   [Quote] 
Edited to suit detritus' suggestions below.

Hi detritus,

here's an attempt for those f***in' UK pressings Wink
I changed the whole description-system a little bit, and also the numbering after number 5 (i think up to Nr. 5 it's correct and more or less based on facts, after that any numbering is possible, IMHO.

The "optical" problem are Nr.8 and Nr.9, which i could change to have the 2 "CMCS Print & Colour Ltd." after each other, but then there would be an interruption in the "Made in UK" - line. hmm

What's your opinion on this draft?

8 HR UK REPRISE RSLP 6356 1970 S LP 1st Label: 3 colour "Pop Series" Reprise Label / Cover: Dist. By CBS
8 HR UK REPRISE RSLP 6356 1970 S LP 2nd Label: 1 colour Reprise Label / Cover: Dist. by CBS
8 HR UK REPRISE RSLP 6356 1970 S LP 3rd Label: 1 colour Reprise Label / Cover: Dist. by KINNEY
8 HR UK REPRISE RSLP 6356/K 44078 1971 S LP 4th Label: unknown / Cover: RSLP-Sleeves with a "K 44078"-Sticker / Cover: Dist. by KINNEY
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 5th(?) Label: no mention of "UK" and no "v"/Cover: unknown/Matrix: unknown
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 6th(?) Label: no mention of "UK", but has "v"/Cover: unknown/Matrix: unknown
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 7th(?) Label: Made in UK under "SIDE ONE", "v"/Cover: unknown/Matrix: unknown
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 8th(?) Label: Made in UK, "v" / Cover: Dist. by KINNEY , MacNeill Press Ltd. / Matrix: stamped (RSLP 6356 K 44078)
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1974? S LP 9th(?) Label: Made in UK, "v", W on rim/Cover: dist. by WEA RECORDS LTD., MacNeill Press Ltd./Matrix: stamped (RSLP 6356 K 44078)
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 10th(?) Label: Made in UK, "v",W on rim/Cover: dist. by WEA RECORDS LTD., CMCS Print & Colour Ltd./Matr.: S1 handwr., S2 stamped
8 HR UK REPRISE K 44078 1971? S LP 11th(?) Label: Manufactured in the UK, "v", W on rim/Cover: dist. by WEA RECORDS LTD., CMCS Print & Colour Ltd./Matr.: S1 handwr., S2 stamped

All of the K 44078-pressings have (P)1969 on label

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Post 2010-08-30 19:46   [Quote] 
i agree Hasi, it's a bit tricky

actually the picture i put up is in the order that i thought makes the most sense. the only exeption being the "made in UK under", which is confusing.
i always tought the ones without the "made in UK" were the earlier ones. Like the RSLP's also don't carry the "made in UK" on the label.

first the one without the "v"
then the "v" appears on the label
then the "made in UK" appears
now the change from from MacNeill to CMCS takes place (pretty sure MacNeill is earlier)
addition of the Warner "W" happens
last version the "Manufactured in UK" which is CMCS too.

the same pattern can be observed on let's say BWS, Fillmore, JABFLA and others

does that make sense in any way?

edit: the orange label colour you picked up in your comment is probably not of any relevance. i think it just comes down on how the picture was taken, flash, no flash, sunlight and so on.
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Post 2010-09-03 17:45   [Quote] 
Guess your suggestions make some sense Wink

The numbering might change though if we find the Covers for 5, 6 and 7 and find out that one or more of them have WEA instead of Kinney. headhammer

If you give me green light for above's draft i'll include it into the main list.

EDIT: #9 may be from 74 or later, as my copy has an inner sleeve featuring all kind of WEA-releases, including Apostrophe (')

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Post 2010-09-03 18:12   [Quote] 
Hasi wrote:
If you give me green light for above's draft i'll include it into the main list.


it looks good to me, but i'm pretty sure it'll change again.

surely some other vinyl sniffer has the missing cover information at hand. it would be great to fill in the blanks

my #9-11 all come with a blank inner, the one with the UK patent number on the bottom.
but that doesn't mean anything, as all my rats were bought second-hand.

edit: #9 is likely as late as '76. up to OSFA the first UK pressings don't have the Warner "W" on the label.
We skip BF for obvious reasons and then we have ZA where the 1st UK comes straight with the "W".
unless there is a UK ZA i'm not aware of. Also makes kind of sense, ZA being the first release on Warner
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Post 2010-09-03 18:13   [Quote] 
detritus wrote:
but i'm pretty sure it'll change again.


definitely Wink

I included it for now, lets see if more information pops up.........

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but that doesn't mean anything, as all my rats were bought second-hand.


so where mine.

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Post 2010-09-03 18:22   [Quote] 
while we're at it, what do you make of this?

clearly a german press, but why does it have the K-number?
matrix stamped "RS Alsdorf 59021 A2 = 44078-A-2"
no more additional info at the moment.
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Post 2010-09-04 13:26   [Quote] 
Strange indeed......

I included it for the time being like this on top of the REP 44078s:

8 HR GER REPRISE K 44078 1971 S LP Brown Reprise Label has: WEA, LC 0322, "ART GALLERY", no GEMA, Publisher credits: Hit Songs Ltd./Cover: unknown

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matrix stamped "RS Alsdorf 59021 A2 = 44078-A-2"


This one here:

8 HR GER REPRISE REP 44078 1971 S LP Brown Reprise Label has: WEA, LC 0322, "ART GALLERY", GEMA/FOC: (Z), France: WE 341, Made in Germany by WEA Music GmbH

has this stamped matrix: "STRAWBERRY (C) R/S Alsdorf 59021 A2 = 44078-A-2"

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