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1984 09 16 Rotterdam NL 103.43 Aud MC (WIU2B-Chunga's Revenge-flambay) ZTLS#360
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Post 2009-03-06 23:33   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
1984 09 16
The Ahoy
Rotterdam, Holland


~~ WIU2B Master Clone (fresh rip), complete w.fills ~~

Upgrade to previous WIU2B seed (fresh rip from same Master Tape) of this show, now complete
with fills, included from alternate source (Chunga's Revenge 1st gen tape, seeded here)

A third source of this show (1st gen tape supplied by Yojimbo) is also planned for seeding later.

Personnally I believe this one here is the best sounding version of all three. Enjoy !


available tapes according FZshows:
1984 09 16 - The Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
100 min, Aud, A-
Chunga's Revenge, Teenage Wind, Truck Driver Divorce, Trouble Every Day, Penguin In Bondage, Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel, Cocaine Decisions, Nig Biz, Sharleena, He's So Gay, Bobby Brown, Keep It Greasey, Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, Carol You Fool, Chana In De Bushwop, Let's Move To Cleveland, The Closer You Are, No No Cherry, Cosmik Debris, Dinah-Moe Humm, Whipping Post


This copy: 103.43 min, Aud MC, A- (w. fills from CR 1st gen)

Lineage:
AUD > Sony Walkman D6 > cassette Maxell XLII90 > Nakamichi DR-10 > Terratec DMX6 Fire soundcard (Stereo, 24 bit, 88.200kHz) > Steinberg WaveLab > WAV >
Soundforge 9: speed correction, volume level & phase offset adjustments, re-sampled (16 bit, 44.100kHz), patching fills from alternate source > flac TLH lvl7 (674 MB)

WIU2B notes: Recorded from the back of the hall, 2nd ring almost dead centre.
I borrowed a Sony Walkman D6 (?) stereo recorder for this show. Thanks Aad(ROTEB)V wherever you are.


tape recorded: WIU2B
tape transferred: WIU2B
edited by: flambay

Fills from alternate source, 1st gen, kindly provided by Chunga's Revenge: 102.08 min, Aud 1st, A-/B+
Lineage (Chunga's Revenge):
AUD MC > 1st gen Tapes TDK SA90 played with Nakamichi CR-1E 2-Head deck > Sound Blaster Live! 24 bit > SoundForge 6.0 recording wav.files
> SF 9.0: speed corrections, tracking, extracting and patching fills with main source

Source: Aud
Taped by: P, thanks a lot wherever you are!
Taper position: 2nd row, right of the middle.
Transferred by: Chunga's Revenge
Edited by: Chunga's Revenge and flambay

Line-up:
Frank Zappa's Band, July - December 1984
FZ, Ike Willis, Ray White, Scott Thunes, Chad Wackerman, Allan Zavod, Bobby Martin

Tracklist:

00 Tuning up [1:38] CR source patch {0:50-0:56}
01 Chunga's Revenge [4:58]
02 Teenage Wind [2:29]
03 Truck Driver Divorce [4:10]
04 More Trouble Every Day [4:50]
05 Penguin In Bondage [4:59]
06 Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel [5:03]
07 Cocaine Decisions [2:51]
08 Nig Biz [6:31]
09 Sharleena [7:00] tf/CR source {3:33-3:47}
10 He's So Gay [2:30]
11 Bobby Brown [2:39]
12 Keep It Greasey [3:25]
13 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? [3:56]
14 Carol You Fool [3:57]
15 Chana In De Bushwop [4:21]
16 Let's Move To Cleveland [16:24] tf/CR source {13:03-13:17}
17 encore break [1:43]
18 The Closer You Are [2:03]
19 Johnny Darling [0:48]
20 No No Cherry [1:25]
21 Cosmik Debris [5:29]
22 encore break #2 [1:08]
23 Dinah-Moe Humm [3:17]
24 Whipping Post [5:56]

Total time (patched version) 103.43 min

unpatched tracks (WIU2B MC source only) in separate subfolder (161 MB):
01 Tuning up [1:37] drop-out {0:51-0:54}
09 Sharleena [6:52] (tapeflip 03:35)
16 Let's Move To Cleveland [16:14] (tapeflip 13:05)

Total time (MC source only) 103.24 min

Brought to you by WIU2B, Chunga's Revenge & flambay

Enjoy !!!

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samples history:
WIU2B (full seed, previous transfer): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5911
WIU2B (new transfer, samples, patched): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14614
Chunga's Revenge (samples): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14614
Yojimbo 1st gen (samples): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14776
Chunga's Revenge (full seed): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14888

ffp:
840916-Rotterdam NL - 00 Crowd~Tuning.flac:3ca488c2af170929de78d8614a99bd70
840916-Rotterdam NL - 01 Chunga's Revenge.flac:cff78483fb288fc91ff8403a5b1db804
840916-Rotterdam NL - 02 Teenage Wind.flac:21980ae5f69a1c7a42c5c38e9d452c77
840916-Rotterdam NL - 03 Truck Driver Divorce.flac:2019e6e2f8084c7f53f471ca57c496d9
840916-Rotterdam NL - 04 More Trouble Every Day.flac:82bed87c6fa92699457c4fed74f923e1
840916-Rotterdam NL - 05 Penguin In Bondage.flac:f3a140f0e0fe222267f910abd091cf84
840916-Rotterdam NL - 06 Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel.flac:0dc7976e00643a1d426ecd1213f56d16
840916-Rotterdam NL - 07 Cocaine Decisions.flac:6d586de4cfa9028edd9e61d3acb9ba62
840916-Rotterdam NL - 08 Nig Biz.flac:6405658dc7338b8423f59660ecfb9e34
840916-Rotterdam NL - 09 Sharleena.flac:fad9c62f6269191651ac72228b5a157b
840916-Rotterdam NL - 10 He's So Gay.flac:3c4f2ab84d9a1574fed871aadacb8aae
840916-Rotterdam NL - 11 Bobby Brown.flac:ec472b452433a134712da99a493cf881
840916-Rotterdam NL - 12 Keep It Greasey.flac:70291670d6891a4784250784b0fc9f47
840916-Rotterdam NL - 13 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me.flac:0d7966048208fbb8e7b985bb0effb143
840916-Rotterdam NL - 14 Carol You Fool.flac:e3078fcc6e5113fee60aa3a9b5136a36
840916-Rotterdam NL - 15 Chana In Da Bushwop.flac:59d26c78ac9bf4063eb7537c1de0d7dc
840916-Rotterdam NL - 16 Let's Move To Cleveland.flac:5a7fc07b127124ea538b99d1e46cb7ac
840916-Rotterdam NL - 17 encore break.flac:50995612fe362e4f08ff862f684f09ba
840916-Rotterdam NL - 18 The Closer You Are.flac:b301c999aba1458f7871ddb6da004668
840916-Rotterdam NL - 19 Johnny Darling.flac:1c489efb6515dc21e2eb7dd9facf94eb
840916-Rotterdam NL - 20 No No Cherry.flac:07ac475fbeaab99adc65cd5801cd293d
840916-Rotterdam NL - 21 Cosmik Debris.flac:2e56adc16b9e3a33a957d8338169dea8
840916-Rotterdam NL - 22 encore break #2.flac:f0429f8083c7d757714799a78c73b870
840916-Rotterdam NL - 23 Dinah Moe Humm.flac:d4d65e8792d77c6132a2ddc0ce1c6fdf
840916-Rotterdam NL - 24 Whippin' Post.flac:8f3270ca097c7ca50e274dc403f288cb

840916-Rotterdam NL - 00 Crowd~Tuning (unpatched).flac:ef64e098f12e8b3791d3a28aeb48cfc3
840916-Rotterdam NL - 09 Sharleena (unpatched).flac:c9cd5d498bfa1c4f2d5926dd1b8cf8d2
840916-Rotterdam NL - 16 Let's Move To Cleveland (unpatched).flac:bbd87f94b8e8a625432508992fed0e15
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Post 2009-03-06 23:47   [Quote] 
Thanks flambay and all the others.

It seems Zappateers in on a Dutch rush these last days.

Keep them coming, I'll take them!


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Post 2009-03-06 23:49   [Quote] 
Ship Ahoy

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Post 2009-03-07 01:52   [Quote] 
Let's move to Rotterdam!

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Post 2009-03-07 06:44   [Quote] 
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Post 2009-03-07 10:22   [Quote] 
this comment:

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Personnally I believe this one here is the best sounding version of all three. Enjoy !
Surprised

is the most valuable comment of all C Surprised .......perhaps it's something you should remark on whenever more than 1 version of a show turns up, this allowing those of us that prefer only the ultimate version (on account of HDrive space if nothing else) to make a decision what to download hmm . Of course it's accepted that it's all personal opinions....BUT.....big BUT.....we all now you iz the man with a m a z i n g ears. Smile

thanks for this and all your work flambay Surprised

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Post 2009-03-07 10:39   [Quote] 
MrUMRK wrote:
this comment:

Quote:
Personnally I believe this one here is the best sounding version of all three. Enjoy !
Surprised

is the most valuable comment of all C Surprised .......perhaps it's something you should remark on whenever more than 1 version of a show turns up, this allowing those of us that prefer only the ultimate version (on account of HDrive space if nothing else) to make a decision what to download hmm . Of course it's accepted that it's all personal opinions....BUT.....big BUT.....we all now you iz the man with a m a z i n g ears. Smile

thanks for this and all your work flambay Surprised


Couldn't agree more - thanks! Smile

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Post 2009-03-07 12:49   [Quote] 
Many thanks!
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Post 2009-03-07 14:52   [Quote] 
MrUMRK wrote:
on account of HDrive space if nothing else

Most shows can be compared before in Samples & Fills. So you can make your choice there. Wink

MC's and also different sources are a must have in my opinion. One can experience the music from a different place or atmosphere. tunes

If someone doesn't agree on this statement, never mind, after downloading you can compare yourself and see if you delete one of the versions (or not of course).

Besides, external HD's with tons of space are very cheap these days...

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Post 2009-03-07 15:13   [Quote] 
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Most shows can be compared before in Samples & Fills. So you can make your choice there.


Plus give us an opinion. people want to help, well we need it here. I agree with all you say. I get tired of asking. Shows are long delayed because only a handful of people are willing to help.
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Post 2009-03-08 09:31   [Quote] 
Thank you very much again all.
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Post 2009-03-23 22:19   [Quote] 
Great works and great thanks to all of you.
It's allways a gift to listen all these wonderful concerts.
I'm just discovering Zappateers, the best thing it could happen to me.
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