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1988 04 16 Brighton UK 131.31 Aud 1st (Drew51-BengoFury-flambay) Third Source
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Post 2009-02-26 20:06   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
Brighton Conference Centre
Brighton UK
April 16th 1988


~~ 1st gen copy from third Audience Master source (SS-Drew51) ~~

"Greetings, weekend party people !!..." - Take 3

And here we go with yet another copy of the 1988 04 16 Brighton UK show -
as promised earlier here's the third seed of this show, after the TOGFIADO and the BengoFury sourced 1st gens.

Well worth downloading this SS-Drew51 1st gen version too imo and comparing it to the other two.
Sound equally in the A-/B+ range. Enjoy !!


available tapes according FZshows:
1988 04 16 - Brighton Center, Brighton, UK
130 min, Aud, B+
Stinkfoot, Packard Goose Medley, Alien Orifice, Disco Boy, Teenage Wind, Bamboozled By Love, The Orange County Lumber Truck, When Yuppies Go To Hell, I Am The Walrus, Zoot Allures [TBBYNHIYL], When The Lie's So Big, Planet Of The Baritone Women, Any Kind Of Pain, Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk, City Of Tiny Lights [incl. Scratch & Sniff, TRF], A Pound For A Brown [parts on When Yuppies Go To Hell, MAJNH], Sharleena, Texas Motel Medley, Stairway To Heaven, Bolero


This copy: 131.31 min, Aud 1st, A-/B+

Source: First Generation audience capture on high bias cassette
Equipment: Sony WM-D6 with Sony ECM 929's (probably)
Lineage: Maxell XLII-S Cassette(1st gen) > Nakamichi CR-7A cassette deck > Gina20 > Sound Forge 7.0 (record/edits) > FLAC Lvl 8 > wav
> Soundforge 9: speed correction, volume level adjustments, tracking, patching with fill source material > flac TLH lvl7 w/SBA (838 MB)

Taped By: SS
Transferred By: Drew51
Edited By: Drew51, flambay

Fills from alternate 1st gen source (BengoFury version: 131.43 min, Aud 1st, A-)
seeded here: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14726

Lineage:
Aud Master > TDK SA cassettes > Pioneer W606DR deck/SB Live! Gold Pro soundcard
> wav (AA raw) > Soundforge 9: speed correction, extracting filler material and patching with Drew51 source

Taped by: n/a
Transferred by: BengoFury
edited by: flambay

Line Up:

The 1988 Band:
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
Paul Carman - alto sax
Walt Fowler - trumpet
Bruce Fowler - trombone
Mike Keneally - guitar, keyboards, vocals
Ed Mann - percussion
Robert Martin - keyboards, vocals
Kurt McGettrick - baritone sax
Scott Thunes - bass
Chad Wackerman - drums
Ike Willis - guitar, vocals
Albert Wing - tenor sax

Set list:

00 Crowd Noise ~ Tuning [1:34]
01 Stinkfoot [6:13]
02 Packard Goose Medley [7:25]
03 Alien Orifice [4:15]
04 Disco Boy [3:08]
05 Teenage Wind [2:39]
06 Bamboozled By Love [5:09]
07 Orange County Lumber Truck Medley [9:57]
08 When Yuppies Go To Hell [5:49] tf/BF source patch {4:37-4:52}
09 I Am The Walrus [4:00]
10 Preamble to 2nd set [0:45] cuts in, BF source patch {0:00-0:28}
11 Zoot Allures [TBBYNHIYL] [8:08]
12 When The Lie's So Big [3:46]
13 Planet Of The Baritone Women [3:14]
14 Any Kind Of Pain [5:44]
15 Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk [7:30]
16 City Of Tiny Lights [incl. Scratch & Sniff, TRF] [8:04]
17 A Pound For A Brown [parts on When Yuppies Go To Hell, MAJNH] [10:37] tf/BF source patch {3:22-5:08}
18 Sharleena [8:11]
19 encore break [0:42]
20 Texas Motel Medley [9:21]
21 Stairway To Heaven [8:43]
22 encore break #2 [0:35]
23 Bolero [5:51] cut/BF source patch {0:28-1:25}

Total time (with BF source patches) 131.31 min

Unpatched tracks (SS-Drew51 source only) in separate subfolder (128 MB):
08 When Yuppies Go To Hell (unpatched) [5:35] tf/cut at 4:38
10 Preamble to 2nd set (unpatched) [0:17] cuts in
17 A Pound For A Brown (unpatched) [9:51] tf/cut at 3:28, bad static flaw around 3:59 (replaced with BF material in patched track)
23 Bolero (unpatched) [5:05] cut at 0:30

Total time (SS-Drew51 1st gen source only) 129.18 min

Notes:
Static at start of side three, unable to remove.
Some static removed from A Pound For A Brown.

Credits:
Thanks to SS for an excellent capture!
Thanks to BengoFury for the fills material.

2009 01 06 - Drew51 ZRP Archives

Enjoy !!

-- Drew51 & flambay

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samples history:
BengoFury (old rip, from EZT seed): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14445
SS-Drew51: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14445
Obdula G: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14468
BengoFury (new raw rip): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14703

1988 04 16 Brighton UK 132.18 Aud 1st (TOGFIADO-BF-MrUMRK-flambay) ZTLS#352 (full alt. source version)
1988 04 16 Brighton UK 132.03 Aud 1st (BengoFury-Drew51-flambay) (2nd alt.source version)

ffp:
880416-Brighton UK - 00 Crowd Noise~Tuning.flac:c72b056f5e6f031a35f62f4591e00fe1
880416-Brighton UK - 01 Stink Foot.flac:71745980036c70183e28235c1fd505ce
880416-Brighton UK - 02 Packard Goose.flac:e48641cbc9e0f0767faabdaca45397e1
880416-Brighton UK - 03 Alien Orifice.flac:5628bb42d346b35dedbb3292e34e6984
880416-Brighton UK - 04 Disco Boy.flac:c5edc15c3bbebae1ff5208f2c58a3843
880416-Brighton UK - 05 Teenage Wind.flac:2858cdd0dbab582bac2ed99e0ad121f7
880416-Brighton UK - 06 Bamboozled By Love.flac:cec89925961d4b296fd175587f509712
880416-Brighton UK - 07 OCLT Medley.flac:497e1466c991032ee5a051b127855ddd
880416-Brighton UK - 08 When Yuppies Go To Hell.flac:97f677c30d280f29d50ffc0fa34c516a
880416-Brighton UK - 09 I'm The Walrus.flac:54883e9ec2e892a71f0a8fb4e1b9e7b8
880416-Brighton UK - 10 Preamble to 2nd set.flac:71a4d6e4c62cab54f34f7747dd51130f
880416-Brighton UK - 11 Zoot Allures.flac:25a93bb09e9a4ed0bb2821b16784a2f1
880416-Brighton UK - 12 When The Lie's So Big.flac:d77432761ae0f62776ed4111ecf45423
880416-Brighton UK - 13 Planet Of The Baritone Women.flac:7aa9cfb811769e01ea711b1b3be2d309
880416-Brighton UK - 14 Any Kind Of Pain.flac:632795f2bcfa6ec0996daa177c17aa62
880416-Brighton UK - 15 Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk.flac:84286fd6de9d7a8398ffa55c0eddea20
880416-Brighton UK - 16 City Of Tiny Lites.flac:25bb24f7e928ab8fddd68e09dd8e13db
880416-Brighton UK - 17 Pound For A Brown.flac:f6ca27b1f0dd0cacc01671971f79cf98
880416-Brighton UK - 18 Sharleena.flac:c49e14a45090af2f9719fa27b318e65e
880416-Brighton UK - 19 encore break.flac:a98f8aeb8d1acd065f32a4082468d568
880416-Brighton UK - 20 Texas Motel Medley.flac:4cff5354c1430c3aa662fa45e99a9d3c
880416-Brighton UK - 21 Stairway To Heaven.flac:ced709f616de940b4ecee4ef6f8d3046
880416-Brighton UK - 22 encore break #2.flac:013b2d856169b182641709dc15692c57
880416-Brighton UK - 23 Bolero.flac:49703c3ba639d5c84deae4b33895b2e1

880416-Brighton UK - 08 When Yuppies Go (unpatched).flac:172fbe03f64e7ab633b7916d95a2c8d4
880416-Brighton UK - 10 Preamble to 2nd set (unpatched).flac:8502bdea418ff2d7478cdef2f7e01faa
880416-Brighton UK - 17 Pound For A Brown (unpatched).flac:1fa71c00a4e51367cae01ba4bcb35473
880416-Brighton UK - 23 Bolero (unpatched).flac:486c1a6a16aac370d9bfdf1697001565


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Post 2009-02-26 20:12   [Quote] 
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mannmannmannmannmannmannmannooomann ey............. band crazy

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Post 2009-02-26 20:17   [Quote] 
Thanks!

Has anybody thought of the idea of making this to an surround mix.
I would guess that matter has been disscused. Either way, i would do one
for myself!

Thanks again!
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Post 2009-02-26 20:26   [Quote] 
Thanks flambay, BengoFury and Drew51!
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Post 2009-02-26 20:28   [Quote] 
I was excited with the first source. Now we have three? Fantastic work guys. tunes

Kind regards,
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Post 2009-02-26 20:30   [Quote] 
tordmullet wrote:
Thanks!

Has anybody thought of the idea of making this to an surround mix.
I would guess that matter has been disscused. Either way, i would do one
for myself!

Thanks again!


If you do, please share some samples with us!
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Post 2009-02-26 20:54   [Quote] 
3 Sources! Great! Thanks to everybody involved! Smile
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Post 2009-02-26 21:13   [Quote] 
Quote:

Has anybody thought of the idea of making this to an surround mix.
I would guess that matter has been disscused. Either way, i would do one
for myself!


Yes, of this show in particular. As the versions are all pretty sweet. I too would love to hear one!!
What's nice is one source (well, two, this one and bengo's) is close. But the other is a bit farther away, and would add depth. I think it would be just about ideal.
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Post 2009-02-26 21:15   [Quote] 
Will start with this source and maybe try the others. Many thanx cheers
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Post 2009-02-26 21:27   [Quote] 
Zappacheers!

Thanks!!
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Post 2009-02-26 21:54   [Quote] 
3 great versions in less than 3 months! The surround sound idea is great, and Drew is absolutely correct- my version was recorded from a position high up at the rear of the hall.
Thanks to all concerned for this one.
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Post 2009-02-26 22:07   [Quote] 
Quote:
version was recorded from a position high up at the rear of the hall


Your copy is a must include version, in a surround mix. The other two either one could be used, or both.

I myself would make sure right and left channels are in correct orientation in all versions. I would put the TOGFIADO in back. The Bengo in middle speakers, and the SS version in front.
The SS version or bengo version is the sound you hear at the front, and the TOGFIADO version is from the back, and this version looks good in the back! Smile
Anyway it should give a room depth, wow, that would be awesome.
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Post 2009-02-26 22:45   [Quote] 
BengoFury wrote:
tordmullet wrote:
Thanks!

Has anybody thought of the idea of making this to an surround mix.
I would guess that matter has been disscused. Either way, i would do one
for myself!

Thanks again!


If you do, please share some samples with us!


Im working on the projekt as wek speak/write. Probably gona take some time and for the moment
im still D/L the third source from Drew51-FB-flambay.
and as an estimated time for working on this Beast i would guess that around every second youd
have to re-sync the whole thing. God knows what it will take with the third source.Dont forget
the whole listening it through looking for phase cancelations. Jezzz what have i got into?

If anybody beats me too, please do share it. I dont do this for fame or glory, just for pleasure!!!

Oh, yes, I will try to make this one to sound better with EQ and perhaps some compressor (i said perhaps!)
Otherwise i think it will sound unbalanced. I wrote earlier this one is for me, but i would love to share it if
anybody out there wish too!
But hey im not finished yet!!!!!!!
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Post 2009-02-27 07:02   [Quote] 
If you did manage a surround of this I would get a surround set-up just to listen to it.

Good luck...and I want to hear the high E string snap at 5.07 in Sharleena. Near the bridge, about 3 foot back from the front of the stage and 5 foot left from the centre, please.

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