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1974 11 08 (E) Passaic NJ 112.15 MC (theGrape-edit by pbuzby) - ZTLS #303
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pbuzby
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Post 2008-02-10 20:16   [Quote] 
I pulled out my CDRs of Zappa Penguin's reseed of Grape's master and realized that the pitch was slightly slow, just enough to make the show sound a bit draggy. Here is a fix.

I sped up all tracks by 50 cents in Goldwave, and then used Trader's Little Helper to fix the SBEs in the altered files. Other than that, no changes.

Below is Zappa Penguin's inimitable original text, with a couple of no-longer-applicable bits edited out.

I am currently seeding Zappa Penguin's seed, too, for reference.

Quote:

Frank Zappa
Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ
November 8th 1974
Early Show

Source: SONY TC126 w/ SONY F99S microphone -> Maxell UD cassette
Lineage: master cassette -> HD -> cdr -> EAC -> HD -> FLACfrontend
Taped by: the Grape
Transfered/tracked by: "j"
Tagged/retracked by: Zappa Penguin

extra lineage:

All tracks:
.FLAC > foobar2000 (ReplayGain, scanned as single album, tags written)

Tracks 06, 07, 08 (Echidna's Arf, Echidna's Arf > Don't You, drum solo), track 10 (Cosmik Debris), and tracks 21, 22, 23, and 24 (Don't Eat / Nanook, St. Alphonso's, Father O'Blivion, Father O'Blivion con't):
.FLAC > played in WinAMP with nullsoft disk writer plugin (no EQ ) > Merged appropriately with WAVMerge > CDWAV (split & saved as .FLAC level 8 )

"Touring Can Make You Crazy"

This show is the 1974 band at their goofiest. At this point, the nucleus of this band had been touring and playing together nearly non-stop since Feburary 1973 - as such, they're more than comfortable with the crazy nested tuplets of RDNZL and, even more importantly, they have a "feel" for what Zappa's going to do, bringing his guitar solos to previously-unheard-of heights. Just listen to the "Montana" solo.

Frank's in an incredibly good mood tonight, inserting plenty of secret words ("booger", "Freak me out, Frank!", "Ruth", and others), livening up the already-lively tunes.

He obviously had fond memories of this show, as he released a large portion of it on the Stage series - Ruthie Ruthie, Babbette, and the "Freak Me Out, Frank" dialogue on YCDTOSA #1, and the Booger Man and Smell My Beard on YCDTOSA #4.

The Catalogue wrote:
1974 11 08 Passaic, NJ
Early show - Aud 115min A-/B+
not available
note: grapeman masterclone (115.17) had circulated - reseed really needed

"Really needed", eh? Careful what you wish for...

This is that aforementioned Grapeman (a.k.a. "the Grape") master clone, lovingly retracked by a near-expert interface of the Man/Machine, carefully polished with only the finest ReplayGain info and track tags straight from the spiritual heart of the arctic tundra, and packaged with an extra text file detailing the exact changes from the original seed we know so well.

ZP and the Grape wrote:
Zappa Penguin: Hiya Grape! . . . Just had a quick question. I'm "with" the Zappateers, and was wondering if / hoping it'd be okay to provide a re-tracked version of 11/08/74E Passaic (the Ruthie Ruthie show). No Ninja crap, no remastering or anything like that. Just resplitting the Echidna's Arf > Don't You Ever Wash That Thing medley and the Yellow Snow Suite.
Zappa Penguin: It hasn't yet been posted to the new tracker, and it's been one of the more frequently-demanded reseeds - I wanted to make sure the best version possible was circulated.
the Grape: sure no problem
the Grape: if you credit me, use "the Grape" as my handle.

Done.

In addition to what I mentioned in that chat, I also split the Ruthie Ruthie preamble from Cosmik Debris - ostensibly, to highlight it as its own seperate track, but moreover, to spare my haggard, jaded, world-weary fingers from having to re-number fourteen extra tracks - since I got rid of an extra track in the Echidna's Arf medley, by creating this new one, the numbering all balances out, and my weary fingers are spared)

Due to its being a master clone, obtained through the highly reliable TDK archives (thanks, DLHotch ), and to my knowledge, the only master source for this show, it has been spared the rigors of samplage. Note that there also exists a version "retouched" by we-all-know-who, but it clearly originates from this seed.

No tape cuts that I know of.

Without any further ado:

Lineup:
Tom Fowler - bass
Chester Thompson - drums, gorilla
Ruth Underwood - amazing percussion, nut-kicking
Napoleon Murphy Brock - singing, dancing, sax, flute, tiny little horse
George Duke - keyboards and synth and vocals, oh my
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals

Set list:
01. Tush Tush Tush
02. intro
03. Stinkfoot
04. RDNZL
05. Village of the Sun
06. Echidna's Arf (of You)
07. Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
08. Florentine Pogen
09. I'm Not Satisfied
10. Cosmik Debris
11. prelude to Ruthie Ruthie
12. Ruthie Ruthie
13. Babbette
14. Approximate
15. "Freak Me Out, Frank"
16. Montana
17. The Booger Man
18. Smell My Beard
19. Marty's Dance Song
20. outro
21. Don't Eat the Yellow Snow
22. Nanook Rubs It
23. St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast
24. Father O'Blivion
25. Tush Tush Tush
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Post 2008-02-10 20:31   [Quote] 
Thank you, Sir !

May I have another, please ?

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Post 2008-02-10 21:31   [Quote] 
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Post 2008-02-10 23:16   [Quote] 
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messieurs clap clap et smiley_abuv Right on, man! ZTworship ZTworship

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Post 2008-02-11 06:33   [Quote] 
Nyyce!
thanx so much for this one!
pitch adjustment....
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Post 2008-02-11 09:42   [Quote] 
Excellent !! Thanks for the upgrade, pbuzby !! tunes
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Post 2008-02-11 15:01   [Quote] 
Much appreciated! tunes

Kind regards,
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Post 2008-02-11 21:39   [Quote] 
Thanks a lot, guys. Some of the best shows of the 70s were played in Passaic. It's awesome that Grape was there to record them and now shares them with us.
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Post 2008-02-12 03:47   [Quote] 
teasea wrote:
Some of the best shows of the 70s were played in Passaic.


yeah, 1973 05 09, 1974 11 08, 1975 04 09 and 1978 10 13 are consistently excellent dates, often both early and late sets equally memorable. This 1974 set has some of the best moments. Thanks for fixing and reseeding, guys!

There has to be a dog of some sorts, or a kennel, somewhere on the cover for this one!

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Post 2008-02-12 13:59   [Quote] 
Listening now and it sounds killer -- thanks for the fix!!
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Post 2008-02-12 15:18   [Quote] 
Zappa's solos are killer on this show, wow. Probably the best version of Florentine Pogen I've ever heard. Very Happy
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Post 2008-02-12 15:41   [Quote] 
Great show indeed ! Thanks a lot !
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Post 2008-02-13 02:36   [Quote] 
Sounds great. Nice job again, Pbuzby.
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Post 2008-02-13 03:29   [Quote] 
globual wrote:
teasea wrote:
Some of the best shows of the 70s were played in Passaic.


yeah, 1973 05 09, 1974 11 08, 1975 04 09 and 1978 10 13 are consistently excellent dates, often both early and late sets equally memorable. This 1974 set has some of the best moments. Thanks for fixing and reseeding, guys!

globual


1978 10 13 Late is probably my favorite show for Zappa guitar solos. He was absolutely on fire that night.
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