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Yojimbo
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Post 2008-01-31 11:17   [Quote] 
For the foreseeable future, I won't be able to finish and seed any full length shows. But don't worry, my tape deck will keep on runnin', and I will be sending out raw dumps to competent Zappateers. After I've sent out the shows that already passed through the samples process (quite a few), I will start focusing on The Never Seen shows of The Catalogue. I've compiled a list of the shows that are "never seen", excluding those that are "never seen as lossless". I quickly realized that most of these are sparsely circulated for a reason - soundwise, they are in the C+/C- range.
I want some opinions - should I go ahead with these, starting out with the better-than-C+ tapes, or should I broaden my scope and look for better sounding tapes that are "only seen as lossy"? I'm also interested in requests/votes for the tapes in this list, if there are any of them that you are particularly interested in hearing.
A little disclaimer: I haven't checked the status on all of these against my collection, and it's possible that I only have some of these in NR'ed or otherwise altered versions. But most of them are on tapes, collected in the 90's.

Concerts/soundchecks:
1968 10 20 Amsterdam, Netherlands Aud 100 C - complete audience tape (for completist only) never seen
1970 11 27 Manchester, UK - Aud 65min C-
1970 12 02 København, Denmark - two Aud recording: 95min C & 55min B (note: only heavily nr ninja version of the short version (57.57) has circulated - long version never seen)
1973 08 18 København, Denmark - Aud 130min B (note: an incomplete (92min) and very nr reducted version was seeded somewhere by woodpecker - no other versions known)
1974 07 13 St Petersburg, FL - Aud 90min B-
1975 10 12 Dallas, TX - Aud 80min B+/C+
1975 10 15 Fayetteville, AR - Aud 125min C+
1975 10 26 Hempstead, NY - Aud 100min B-
1976 02 17 Köln, Germany - Aud 150min B/C+
1976 02 29 København, Denmark Early Show - Aud 115min C
1976 11 04 Landover (aka Largo), MD - Aud 70min B/B-
1977 01 15 Stockholm, Sweden - Aud 60min B-
1977 02 13 Glasgow, UK - Aud 105min B-/C+
1977 10 22 Montreal, Canada - Aud 125min B/B-
1978 02 13 Rotterdam, Netherlands - Aud 120min B/B- (only bad and incomplete mp3 series have circulated)
1978 02 19 Stockholm, Sweden Early show - Aud 20min C
1978 02 19 Stockholm, Sweden Late show - Aud 90min C+
1978 02 23 Münster, Germany - Aud 110min B-
1978 09 15 Miami, FL Soundcheck - Aud 45min C+
1978 09 28 Detroit, MI - Aud 125min B-
1980 04 01 Berkeley, CA Early show - Aud 105 B-
1980 04 04 San Diego, CA - Aud 60min B+
1980 04 17 Tampa, FL - Aud 90min C+
1980 05 10 Upper Darby, PA Early show - Aud 90min B+
1980 05 28 Kiel, Germany - Aud 105min B-
1980 06 01 Stockhom, Sweden Late show - Aud 110min B/B-
1980 06 05 Hannover, Germany - Aud 115min B+/B
1980 06 07 Köln, Germany Late show - Aud 80min B/B-
1980 06 11 Paris, France Late show - Aud 90min B-
1980 06 17 London, UK - Aud 120min C
1980 06 18 London, UK - Aud 115min C
1980 06 25 Mannheim, Germany - Aud 100min B/B-
1980 06 26 Neunkirchen am Brand, Germany - Aud 105min B/B-
1980 07 03 München, Germany - Aud 115min B/B-
1980 10 26 Stony Brook, NY Early show - Aud 90min C/C-
1981 10 01 Portland, OR - Early show - Aud 90min B-
1981 10 09 Tucson, AZ Early show - Aud 90min C
1981 11 09 Toronto, Canada - Aud 130min B+
1981 12 04 St. Louis, MO - Aud 90min C
1982 07 07 Milano, Italy Soundcheck - Aud 20min B
1982 07 09 Roma, Italy Soundcheck - Aud 65min B+ and Aud 25min A-/B+
1984 07 27 Berkeley, CA Soundcheck - Aud 55min C/C-
1984 10 02 Böblingen, Germany Soundcheck - Aud 5min C-
1984 10 07 Nice, France Soundcheck - Aud 40min C
1988 03 08 Pittsburgh, PA Soundcheck/rehearsal - Aud 35min C
1988 03 15 Portland, ME Soundcheck/rehearsal - Aud 50min A-/B+
1988 03 19 Allentown, PA Soundcheck/rehearsal - Aud 35min B+/B
1988 03 20 Hackensack (aka Teaneck), NJ Soundcheck/rehearsal - Aud 55min B-/C+
1988 05 25 Mannheim, Germany Soundcheck - Aud 5min B

Studio rehearsals:
1978 08 ?? #2 - 35min A-
1980 ?? ?? - 5min A-
1981 08 06 - 75min A-/B

Outtakes etc.
1967 - Ride For Your Life soundtrack
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Post 2008-01-31 13:12   [Quote] 
I cannot say it is 'never seen' but it is never seen by me, the show I am interested in is:
1988 Mar-16 Providence RI because of the setlist mostly I would like to hear the raw material for the Untouchables that was used on the Broadway album and several other seldom heard songs from this show like Big Swifty and Filthy Habits.
Another one is 29-Nov 1974, North Central College, Naperville, IL
62 min, SBD, A-
Strange mix, with Bird Legs' bass mixed way up front.

Sorry to go off the list But those are my never seen shows that I would most like to hear. Thanks J.
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Post 2008-01-31 13:45   [Quote] 
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1988 Mar-16 Providence RI because of the setlist mostly I would like to hear the raw material for the Untouchables that was used on the Broadway album and several other seldom heard songs from this show like Big Swifty and Filthy Habits.

I'm pretty sure I only have a digital Ninja version of this, so it's one I'd like to see too. There should be people with good, raw versions here.
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Another one is 29-Nov 1974, North Central College, Naperville, IL

My tape is from hoosac92, so this could be a good one for the dynamic h-K duo. I don't think this one is from the Dick Barber batch, nor do I recall seeing any known generation tapes of it.
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Post 2008-01-31 13:56   [Quote] 
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1988 Mar-16 Providence RI because of the setlist mostly I would like to hear the raw material for the Untouchables that was used on the Broadway album and several other seldom heard songs from this show like Big Swifty and Filthy Habits.


I have send LudzNL a copy that came in a trade with Ron C. sq about B/B+ it runs a bit fast.

I personally would like to see everything B or higher. I collect music, not stamps that i never look at, but that's very very very personal tunes

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Post 2008-01-31 14:03   [Quote] 
Thanks to both of you. Smile
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Post 2008-01-31 14:14   [Quote] 
I have what is almost certainly a better copy of 1980 04 01 early, and possibly competitive versions of a few others (1976 02 17, 1980 06 25, 1981 11 09). 1980 05 28 is in that batch of German shows from 78-80 that circulated as MC -> minidisc transfers a few years ago. The others would be great.
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Post 2008-01-31 16:17   [Quote] 
Notwhatitused2B wrote:
I collect music, not stamps that i never look at,


Great quote ... I must feel the same way Very Happy
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Post 2008-01-31 16:32   [Quote] 
Notwhatitused2B wrote:
I personally would like to see everything B or higher. I collect music, not stamps that i never look at, but that's very very very personal tunes


Personally I'd like the C+ and lower recordings to appear eventually. Now and then there is an interesting FZ comment or solo buried on those tapes. Just IMO, of course.
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Post 2008-01-31 17:23   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
Personally I'd like the C+ and lower recordings to appear eventually. Now and then there is an interesting FZ comment or solo buried on those tapes. Just IMO, of course.

I can't agree more Wink
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Post 2008-01-31 17:36   [Quote] 
I don't have most if not all of the "never seen" list.
It would be great if some or all of them appear on Zappateers at a not so far day. Even some C tapes are worth hearing, in my opinion. I don't matter the sequence they appear very much.
The "only seen as lossy" tapes are of lower priority for me.
I would start with the 88 Soundcheck/rehearsals.
Thanks Yojimbo for offering your treasures
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Post 2008-01-31 18:04   [Quote] 
Seems I should have started a poll, "Never seen C's vs. rarely seen B's". Anyway, keep them opinions coming!
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Post 2008-01-31 18:35   [Quote] 
I agree with NWIU2B and Unicrayon... But from B- it will do for me.
Those two 1982 soundchecks look very interesting.

Maybe we could concentrate on all those better qualified shows that are not on the tracker yet, seen or not seen. There's so much we haven't done yet.
I don't have that much tapes as you (or Drew) have, so there's also new material (or shows) in between the seen shows for me.

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Post 2008-01-31 18:38   [Quote] 
Sure I'd like to hear the
1967 - Ride For Your Life soundtrack
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Post 2008-01-31 18:44   [Quote] 
As far as votes, I'm curious how the 1980 07 03 complete show is compared to the edited FM everyone has.
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Post 2008-01-31 18:51   [Quote] 
I want it all. Some of my fav tapes are C+ tapes. Anyway Detroit 9-28-78 I have a first gen. Plus another taper has an uncirculated version. So that one is not needed probably. The rest I need to dig in to see. I'm just going to move with the flow. Sampling might take longer, but so what. Thanks for sharing, in any way you can. That is very cool.
I have an audience of 7-3-80 also. So just about everything would have to go though samples anyway.
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