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I cleaned up Vancouver 1975 and Id like peoples opinion if thats okay
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jaypfunk
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Post 2019-11-07 18:18   [Quote] 
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(That version of Apostrophe is phenomenal)


Troof!! I've always loved it.

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Post 2019-11-08 00:06   [Quote] 
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I find the statement that Terry drums were not mic'd to be absolutely ridiculous, especially in venue playing in front of a few THOUSAND people. I'd like to know where this horseshit info came from as well. CNN perhaps?

It's obvious to me that the drums were just were not recorded well for this recording.

Thank you for for feeling the same way. It's frankly unbelievable, and there has (so far) been no response to my request for a source of this ridiculous claim from the originator of this thread. Horseshit indeed, as far as I'm concerned, unless some solid evidence is provided.

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Post 2019-11-08 17:20   [Quote] 
TOGFIADO wrote:
jaypfunk wrote:
I find the statement that Terry drums were not mic'd to be absolutely ridiculous, especially in venue playing in front of a few THOUSAND people. I'd like to know where this horseshit info came from as well. CNN perhaps?

It's obvious to me that the drums were just were not recorded well for this recording.

Thank you for for feeling the same way. It's frankly unbelievable, and there has (so far) been no response to my request for a source of this ridiculous claim from the originator of this thread. Horseshit indeed, as far as I'm concerned, unless some solid evidence is provided.


And further more... Frank didn't fuck around when it came to the sound his bands got on stage and how it sounded in the venues. Sometimes they'd do sound checks longer than the shows were. I say poo poo tah nah nah and poo poo tah nah nah!!

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Post 2019-11-08 17:47   [Quote] 
Yes, as proven by the perfect balance of a lot of road tapes soundboard recordings (Chicago 78, Halloween 73...)

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Post 2019-11-08 18:03   [Quote] 
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Yes, as proven by the perfect balance of a lot of road tapes soundboard recordings (Chicago 78, Halloween 73...)

The sound of a soundboard tape doesn't say anything about the sound in the venue.

That being said, the sound of all the Zappa shows I witnessed was excellent and far superior than what others were able to deliver at that time.

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Post 2019-11-08 18:22   [Quote] 
Thinman wrote:
bleachboy wrote:
Yes, as proven by the perfect balance of a lot of road tapes soundboard recordings (Chicago 78, Halloween 73...)

The sound of a soundboard tape doesn't say anything about the sound in the venue.

That being said, the sound of all the Zappa shows I witnessed was excellent and far superior than what others were able to deliver at that time.


Even in a cavernous hockey rink, which Frank HATED playing in!!

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Post 2019-11-09 14:59   [Quote] 
TOGFIADO wrote:
jaypfunk wrote:
I find the statement that Terry drums were not mic'd to be absolutely ridiculous, especially in venue playing in front of a few THOUSAND people. I'd like to know where this horseshit info came from as well. CNN perhaps?

It's obvious to me that the drums were just were not recorded well for this recording.

Thank you for for feeling the same way. It's frankly unbelievable, and there has (so far) been no response to my request for a source of this ridiculous claim from the originator of this thread. Horseshit indeed, as far as I'm concerned, unless some solid evidence is provided.


The originator of this thread, obviously "Ben Jenkins" or "Bjankins1", claims this on reddit too.
Again, he provides no proof for his claim.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zappa/comments/dr4iv7/illinois_enema_bandit_oct_1_vancouver_1975/
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Post 2019-11-09 16:39   [Quote] 
I don't know why we are even bothering to spend so much time talking about this anyway. Sounds like crap. Any douche with a computer can use Audacity to tweak audio.

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Post 2019-11-09 18:14   [Quote] 
jeezuz christo. remind me not to get on the bad side of the vicious zappateers...
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Post 2019-11-09 20:23   [Quote] 
Still prefer the master audience source so there! cooler
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Post 2019-11-10 13:40   [Quote] 
LeifH wrote:
Still prefer the master audience source so there! cooler


True it does sound great and we have 2 other sources on top of that. No need for this amateur audio tweaking nonsense.

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Post 2019-11-11 22:44   [Quote] 
I know this kind of thing is (rightly) frowned upon here, but I've always thought a careful SBD/AUD matrix of this show could sound extraordinary.

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Post 2019-11-12 02:36   [Quote] 
TFEC wrote:
I know this kind of thing is (rightly) frowned upon here, but I've always thought a careful SBD/AUD matrix of this show could sound extraordinary.


Absolutely, if done right could sound good. But syncing two analog sources is no simple task. People have done it though, there's a fair few Grateful Dead ones that have been done right. You just have to speed/pitch correct one as best as possible and then re-sync the other one every 5-10 seconds. Enough weed and its possible roflol
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Post 2019-11-13 14:26   [Quote] 
TFEC wrote:
I know this kind of thing is (rightly) frowned upon here, but I've always thought a careful SBD/AUD matrix of this show could sound extraordinary.


A few weeks ago, I was strongly considering having a go at this, or at least one or two songs from the show, just to see what it sounded like, but you can't use what you don't have - the audience tape is not available according to the catalog.
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Post 2019-11-13 17:12   [Quote] 
The AUD tape was recently uploaded to the Shoebox as mentioned above. I'll add it to the Catalog tonight.
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