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1974 02 16 Berkeley ~ 121min AUD samples (musigny23-BengoFury)  
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Post 2016-06-18 18:50   [Quote] 
Here's some samples for a great show left languishing on the Shoebox for too long. It's the first circulating tape of the first American tour of 1974. It is quite pleasant sounding but there are various channel fluctuations. So far, this has appeared in three versions: a BengoFury version (125:33), a JimShoes one (118:01) and, later, a Musigny23 (121:14) one, in the shoebox. The JimShoes one has been noise reducted and was eventually pulled off the tracker. The Musigny23 one is the only one with a known lineage and generation and it's, in my opinion, the one who sounds better. The BengoFury one is not too worse but it's edited (one of the cuts has been smoothed) and does not have a known lineage.

Both copies have exactly the same cuts and the same channel problems. I think these can be sorted out with some time and patience, and I'm willing to invest both. I prepared samples of the beninning and the end of the recording, the cuts and a couple of channel fluctuations, as an example of what goes on. I'm definitely more inclined towards the Musigny23 one.

Note that the two copies run at different speeds. Any comment on speed values?

01 Intro
-samples, beginning of the tape
02 Andy
03 Florentine Pogen
04 Kung Fu
05 Penguin In Bondage
06 T'Mershi Duween
-samples, example of channel fluctuations
07 Dog Meat
-samples, example of channel fluctuations
08 Montana
-samples, example of channel fluctuations
09 Dupree's Paradise
-samples, cut/tape flip?
10 Cosmik Debris
-samples, fade out and in before the song introduction
-samples, strange glitch after the end of the song (0:18 circa)
11 Pygmy Twylyte
12 The Idiot Bastard Son (That Arrogant Dick Nixon)
13 Cheepnis
14 Approximate
-samples, cut during applause, edited in BengoFury copy
15 Inca Roads
-samples, end of the tape

Lineage (BengoFury): Aud>low gen tape>CDR>wav (CEP, resplitted)>flac (Frontend with SBE correction)
Lineage (musigny23): MC (Gear unknown other than Sony portable cassette deck) > Reel > Reel > DAT > Apple (aiff) > Xact (flac,ffp)

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1974 02 16 - Community Theatre, Berkeley, CA
125 min, Aud, B+
soundcheck intro, Andy, Florentine Pogen, Kung Fu, Penguin In Bondage, T'Mershi Duween, Dog Meat, Montana, improvisations (incl. Dupree's Paradise story), Dupree's Paradise, Cosmik Debris, Pygmy Twylyte (incl. Dummy Up), The Idiot Bastard Son (That Arrogant Dick Nixon), Cheepnis, Approximate, Inca Roads


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1974 02 16 Berkeley, CA - Aud 120min B- Crying or Very sad Exclamation
in the shoebox : 1974 02 16 Berkeley CA aud (musigny23) seeded 2011-01-23
- archived : 1974 02 16 Berkeley CA 118.01 aud (jimshoes) ) nr
- before zappateers : BengoFury (125.25)

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Post 2016-06-18 19:31   [Quote] 
Sound is similar. Flambay will presumably have a more precise answer but I think the Bengo copy is at correct speed, the musigny23 a bit fast.
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Post 2016-06-18 21:57   [Quote] 
I agree that the musigny23 has the most potential, nothing different at TDK to offer. Looking forward to your results.
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Post 2016-07-09 14:50   [Quote] 
I made a (full 2:01:19, untracked) version (for my own listening pleasure) of musigny23's 'raw' fine sounding source, that he kindly shared in the shoebox, utilizing a sliding time scale/pitch shift by -0.140% in Audacity and it sounds real good if I do say so myself...

it also seems to minimize/eradicate the "channel fluctuations" mentioned by the variable pitch shift.

if there is any interest I could upload some samples(?)

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Post 2016-07-24 15:10   [Quote] 
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if there is any interest I could upload some samples(?)


I don't see any reason you shouldn't upload some samples. Let's check them out!
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Post 2017-11-15 20:14   [Quote] 
Any chance we could see an upload of this gem any time soon? Thanks!

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Post 2017-11-15 22:04   [Quote] 
hoosac92 wrote:
Any chance we could see an upload of this gem any time soon? Thanks!


Agree. I think we should go on with Musigny23 version.

I'd love to prepare this and Montreal 1980, since the samples didn't bring up upgrades.

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Post 2017-11-15 22:10   [Quote] 
Yes, yes, yes!

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Post 2017-12-08 03:36   [Quote] 
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Agree. I think we should go on with Musigny23 version.

I'd love to prepare this and Montreal 1980, since the samples didn't bring up upgrades.


I like the way you're thinking.
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