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Hello Friends, What's the not so secret word of the day? Hologram!
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Post 2017-10-29 02:16   [Quote] 
Reality check -- if you never saw FZ, why would you think holo-Frank is any kind of substitute?

I'm 45 and never saw Frank. But Christ, there's a TON of official videos as well as procured from here that I think, hands down, is the next best substitute to the real thing. Videos like Barcelona 88, Circus Krone, Palladium 81 or the KCET stuff in its various incarnations -- I return to these *frequently* and bask in the video captures of the real deal, the real FZ. Why would ANYONE think that a holo-Frank, if generated from actual footage and projected onto a stand-in stooge or otherwise CGI-ed is in anyway a second-best, authentic FZ experience? Just simply because you are in the same performance space where the chicanery is occurring?

Give me a pro-shot, multi-cam video of the actual FZ from when he was actually creating content. You want to know what is was like to see FZ? Just watch one of those.
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Post 2017-10-29 04:06   [Quote] 
It will never live up to my imagination.
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Post 2017-10-29 09:38   [Quote] 
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Give me a pro-shot, multi-cam video of the actual FZ from when he was actually creating content. You want to know what is was like to see FZ? Just watch one of those.

Just listening to the different Halloween 77 shows should be enough to tell anyone you can't program that level of interaction with a live band or a live crowd, no matter how 'smart' the machine thinks it is.

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Post 2017-10-29 15:29   [Quote] 
Right on, man!

It's kinda like the play Beatlemania. " Not the real Beatles but an incredible simulation " Barf me out!

I'd rather pay a movie price and see FZ videos on the big screen. They could change 'em up every once in a while to keep people coming back for more.
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Post 2017-10-29 17:08   [Quote] 
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...He should put out some dvd's of that unreleased video instead of saving it for the Hologanza.

I've got to agree with this..^^
If there is footage of a ''completely unheard, professionally shot, sound stage set of FZ in his prime in the 70's'' then why ''waste'' it on a hologram show?
I understood they could do pretty much ''anything they want'' with holograms so you don't need video, just unheard multi-track tapes would be good enough... Use the film footage for DVDs!

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Post 2017-10-29 18:37   [Quote] 
father-0blivion wrote:
If there is footage of a ''completely unheard, professionally shot, sound stage set of FZ in his prime in the 70's'' then why ''waste'' it on a hologram show?

Well... you saw how long it took them to get the Roxy movie out... Laughing

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father-0blivion wrote:
If there is footage of a ''completely unheard, professionally shot, sound stage set of FZ in his prime in the 70's'' then why ''waste'' it on a hologram show?

Well... you saw how long it took them to get the Roxy movie out... Laughing

The story is that it was already edited and packaged ready to sell to the networks, so, unless someone is going to stand up, say Frank was wrong and start changing it, other than any content recovery issues, it should be good to go.

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Post 2017-10-30 10:06   [Quote] 
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father-0blivion wrote:
If there is footage of a ''completely unheard, professionally shot, sound stage set of FZ in his prime in the 70's'' then why ''waste'' it on a hologram show?

Well... you saw how long it took them to get the Roxy movie out... Laughing

I can't wait that long again! I'll be 97!!

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The story is that it was already edited and packaged ready to sell to the networks, so, unless someone is going to stand up, say Frank was wrong and start changing it, other than any content recovery issues, it should be good to go.

Someone? You mean someone with a history of making dodgy artistic decisions.... Hmm, I wonder...
Also, I'm still not clear whether any of this will be in the Alex Winter film.... Did he have ''full access'' or not..?

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Post 2017-10-30 20:33   [Quote] 
So they have multi-camera video and multi-track audio of the 1974 band. And they're going to make a hologram play and sing FZ's performance.

And they're going to replace George Duke, Ruth Underwood, Napoleon Murphy Brock, Jeff Simmons, Tom Fowler, and Chester Thompson with young musicians?

Will they ever release the 1974 video? Or will they keep it locked up to protect their investment in the hologram show?
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Post 2017-10-31 05:03   [Quote] 
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So they have multi-camera video and multi-track audio of the 1974 band. And they're going to make a hologram play and sing FZ's performance.

And they're going to replace George Duke, Ruth Underwood, Napoleon Murphy Brock, Jeff Simmons, Tom Fowler, and Chester Thompson with young musicians?

Will they ever release the 1974 video? Or will they keep it locked up to protect their investment in the hologram show?


As someone stated above, [indicating] it's probably a tech nightmare as Roxy turned out to be.
Is this why FZ abandoned all for the Token KCET? 3rd times the charm? Or did filming just become cheaper and he thought the band/music was superior? Or likely both.

Isolating June 21 Frank for the Hologram show is probably easier than making a coherent concert flick. And there's no money in that (that's not a dig, just truth as far as I can surmise).
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Funny that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyeqgmqKg4w&feature=youtu.be

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Post 2017-11-18 10:44   [Quote] 
Yeah, kind of weird how audio/video recordings of a rare lineup (basically, the Summer '74 band but with Jeff Simmons, all the Summer '74 circulating shows are from after Simmons got the heave-ho) will likely end up wasted on this hologram tour madness.
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Post 2017-11-28 06:45   [Quote] 
Screw the Zappa feud, let us get on to more important matters:::

Battle erupts over control of Charles Manson estate

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/25/battle-erupts-over-control-charles-manson-estate.html

ps but what really did happen with the Z-Kid court date of the scheduled November, 2017 meet?
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Post 2017-11-28 08:40   [Quote] 
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ps but what really did happen with the Z-Kid court date of the scheduled November, 2017 meet?


Last week Dweezil said, "there have been some discussions of engaging in settlement talks" - so they're hopefully now moving in the right direction.

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