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jaypfunk Contributor Joined: 2004-11-27 Posts: 1897 Location: Philly
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What a hot HOT version of PMIC!! The solo is longer than what's on the KBFH version. The fade out at the end is kinda dumb. No reason to do that.
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DoctorNerve Power Poster Joined: 2006-04-08 Posts: 1239 Location: Austin
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| 2015-05-11 20:46 |
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| jaypfunk wrote: |
| What a hot HOT version of PMIC!! The solo is longer than what's on the KBFH version. The fade out at the end is kinda dumb. No reason to do that. |
I was thinking that same thing too first time... why fade? I like how you get all that's on a tape when Fripp does it - a total in your face cut... no more music. Move on.
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Pittylabelle Contributor Joined: 2006-03-16 Posts: 5027 Location: Elsewhere in the Fatherland
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| 2015-05-11 22:16 |
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Fantastic version - thanks for the reminder! 
Noticed a little bit of hiss here and there, mainly on the left channel - if you listen with headphones.
For example: increasing from 01:45 to 02:04, then hiss drops out. Or from 06:08 to 06:27.
Of course no flaw, but this maybe indicates the mixing in and out of different sound tracks.
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JWB Contributor Joined: 2005-12-28 Posts: 2317
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| 2015-05-11 22:53 |
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I noticed the weird bursts of hiss too. According to FZ, these recordings were live to stereo. I don't know what kind of remixing they could have possibly done. And as I said, the mastering sucks.
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Pepe Nusbaum Power Poster Joined: 2010-04-12 Posts: 1901 Location: Munchkin Land
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| 2015-05-11 23:37 |
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if this is the complete PMIC from KBFH that is awesome! Certainly a very annoying fade out on a classic famous historical bootleg....woot |
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pbuzby Site Admin Joined: 2005-04-30 Posts: 8953
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| 2015-05-11 23:48 |
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If I recall right Pick Me isn't faded out on the broadcast. Maybe people could splice in the ending from that version.
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jaypfunk Contributor Joined: 2004-11-27 Posts: 1897 Location: Philly
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| 2015-05-12 00:30 |
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The mastering does not suck. It's just showing the limitations of the source tape. It's a fantastic stereo recording that's 35 fuckin years old. Just enjoy it and stop whining.
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JWB Contributor Joined: 2005-12-28 Posts: 2317
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| 2015-05-12 00:31 |
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| The mastering does not suck. It's just showing the limitations of the source tape. |
That might be true in terms of the general sound, but they compressed and limited the hell out of it, which highlights the bad EQ ten-fold.
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jaypfunk Contributor Joined: 2004-11-27 Posts: 1897 Location: Philly
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| 2015-05-12 00:32 |
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The "hiss" that you are hearing could very well be coming from one of FZs rigs. He was using some very nasty sounding distortion on this tour. Deal with it.
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JWB Contributor Joined: 2005-12-28 Posts: 2317
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| 2015-05-12 00:47 |
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Don't tell me how to feel, asshat.
And you are completely fucking wrong...the mastering DOES suck.
I rarely complain about the ZFT, but I don't think it's asking too much for them not to slam the shit out of this stuff.
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Pittylabelle Contributor Joined: 2006-03-16 Posts: 5027 Location: Elsewhere in the Fatherland
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| 2015-05-12 01:33 |
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Clipped curves, but "ripped off".
To put it at its simplest. 
Last edited by Pittylabelle on 2015-05-12 02:52; edited 2 times in total
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Vaultmeister Joined: 2006-11-23 Posts: 74
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| 2015-05-12 02:42 |
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| jaypfunk wrote: |
| What a hot HOT version of PMIC!! The solo is longer than what's on the KBFH version. The fade out at the end is kinda dumb. No reason to do that. |
On the master I used for this version, it goes directly into another song. I decided that I didn't want to include that in the download, but wanted to give you as much of the actual "ending" as I could. Hence the quick fade. Had to make it a "single download" feel.........ah can't please everyone.
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JWB Contributor Joined: 2005-12-28 Posts: 2317
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| 2015-05-12 02:48 |
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You can actually "un-do" the fade so that it cuts at the very end, like people are requesting. It doesn't fade early to silence...just a uniform fadeout applied to the end.
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JWB Contributor Joined: 2005-12-28 Posts: 2317
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| 2015-05-12 02:57 |
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Hey Vaultmeister Joe - is this "remixed" as the liners suggest, or is it live to 2-track as FZ's "YCDTOSA" notes state? I figured it was the digital 2-track mastered (not remixed) by Fillipetti, but I really don't know.
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Vaultmeister Joined: 2006-11-23 Posts: 74
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| 2015-05-12 06:59 |
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| JWB wrote: |
| Hey Vaultmeister Joe - is this "remixed" as the liners suggest, or is it live to 2-track as FZ's "YCDTOSA" notes state? I figured it was the digital 2-track mastered (not remixed) by Fillipetti, but I really don't know. |
This is an eq'd digital to digital transfer to 1630 done in 1988. It's gotta be the two track digital recordings. Then it was sent out to be "mastered" by Frank F. There were more performances from the same show on the reel. The current liners do state that it's mastered by Frank F.
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