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1977 09 25 Bloomington/Minneapolis MN 121min AUD 1st (fzmoi69-doctorzap-fl) Samples  
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Post 2012-06-10 22:27   [Quote] 
Frank Zappa
Metropolitan Sports Center
Bloomington / Minneapolis MN

1977 09 25


Samples from fzmoi69-doctorzap DR1 rip of 1st gen AUD tape

We need to get this show back up in FZ Shows.

Currently the Catalogue says:
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1977 09 25 Bloomington, MN (aka Minneapolis) - Aud 130min B/B- Exclamation
in the shoebox : 1977 09 25 Metropolitan Sports Center Minneapolis MN 1st (fzmoi69 doctorzap) seeded 2011-12-14
- archived : 1977 09 25 Minneapolis MN 120.38 Aud (TDK~FL) unknown gen from cdrs


These samples here are taken from the Shoebox seed (fzmoi69-doctorzap) (torrent file lost)
and need to be compared against the other two versions of this show,
already up in Samples for a good while:

1) The "TDK-FL" version, full version up in FZ Shows/Bad Sources
Samples: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17751

2) The "blackpage" version, probably much less complete, compared to the other two.
Samples: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17976

All versions are copies from the same master source
with the same basic tape flip cuts (C-60) in Pound For A Brown and between Disco Boy and Lather
and the C-90 tape flip cuts here in Big Leg Emma (side 1/2 tf) and in Broken Hearts Are For Assholes (side 2/3 tf)


Current FZshows entry:
1977 09 25 - Metropolitan Sports Center, Minneapolis, MN
120 min, Aud, B/B-

Intro, Peaches En Regalia, The Torture Never Stops, Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, A Pound For A Brown, Conehead, Flakes, Big Leg Emma, Envelopes, Disco Boy, I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth, Wild Love, Titties 'n Beer, The Black Page, Jones Crusher, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, Punky's Whips, Dinah-Moe Humm, Camarillo Brillo, Muffin Man, Black Napkins

This fzmoi69 version: 121.XX min, AUD 1st (?), B+/B/B-

Lineage info with Shoebox seed:
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shitty sound but

Lineage: Maxell XLII 1ST GEN > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH


Is this really a 1st gen copy ?

Samples seeded here:

01 Intro-Peaches - start tape - to be compared against blackpage & TDK-FL samples.

02 Pound For A Brown - around flaws and cut
IMO the flaws in PfaB in this fzmoi69 version are more prominent than in the TDK-FL copy.

03 Big Leg Emma - side 1/2 tape flip cut
Is this spot complete in the other versions ?

04 Disco Boy > Läther - cut between the two tracks

05 Broken Hearts Are For Assholes - side 2/3 tape flip cut
Does the blackpage version really miss the entire portion
between the Envelopes Drum Solo cut-out and the BHAFA cut-in (Samples 02 and 03 there) ?


06 Punky's Whips - Dinah Moe Humm
Cut in encore break.

07 Dinah Moe Humm - Camarillo Brillo
Cut in encore break #2.

08 Black Napkins - end tape

Any version available with possible filler material
for all cuts common to all versions mentioned here ?

Thanks for checking these samples and for speaking up.
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Post 2012-06-10 23:17   [Quote] 
I have the raw TDK version which is the basis for the TDK-FL version...probably no help.
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