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(itunes download): Auditorium Theater, Chicago, May 11, 1974, [FZ master] release:
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syncopatico
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Post 2011-12-26 17:43   [Quote] 
Galeans wrote:
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"I wish Zappa had left his guitar solo intact and cut some of the boring story instead, but oh well..."


Uh... but the "boring story" is the reason the EP has been released Wink

I found it fascinating

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You're right about that! The stereo FZ master mixdown reel probably wouldn't exist today if not for the "boring story".

I'm thankful to hear two amazingly vital bluesy guitar solos that "bookend" it--even one with a noticeable cut can't dampen my enjoyment when i hear FZ rip into such minor-key boogie mastery as he did so well during this era!! cooler
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Post 2011-12-26 17:54   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:
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Very Bad Shame how 1973 is the most-under-represented live year for posthumous releases, followed strongly by 1974.


Unless I'm forgetting something there has also been no live material officially released posthumously from 1967, 68, 69, 70 or 82. And only a few tracks here and there from 79, 81, 84 and 88.

I think they will be getting to 73 sooner or later as I mentioned above.


Correct. BUT:

The 'early years' the sound quality is probably too dodgy & primitive; nothing from 70, but Carnegie Hall '71 was just released obviously which is still Flo & Eddie as the main focus. The early-to-mid-eighties were well covered previously to death by the YCDTOSA entire series. And '88 of course with its official live releases.

1973 might be difficult because the material is quite lengthy and involves long segue-ways as you know: i would hope for a download that would not be limited by the time constraints of cd timings in such cases..(if not there would have to be fades involved). Will be interesting hopefully if there is something *full-length* to be released from '73 eventually.
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Post 2011-12-26 18:17   [Quote] 
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The credits for this release include "Original tape transfer to WAV through Euphonix converters to Nuendo at 96K 24B via ATR 4-Tk plus edit in gtr solo at reel change & the fade over and out by Vaultmeister" (emphasis added). So I guess that was the reason, unless this refers to another edit later in the solo.


Appears as if i should have originally written (in my initial post): "Jeez, the edit that Joe Travers did to the guitar solo in Penguin In Bondage sure is noticeable." Embarassed
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Post 2011-12-26 18:35   [Quote] 
syncopatico wrote:

Correct. BUT:

The 'early years' the sound quality is probably too dodgy & primitive; nothing from 70, but Carnegie Hall '71 was just released obviously which is still Flo & Eddie as the main focus. The early-to-mid-eighties were well covered previously to death by the YCDTOSA entire series. And '88 of course with its official live releases.



Joe has mentioned a couple of possible releases from the 60's, a Whiskey A Go Go recording from 68, and a Hot Rats era club gig with studio player Ed Greene on drums. There is probably also good material left from the 69 tour recorded by Dick Kunc. I agree releases from the more recent years might be redundant, but I have seen people mention wanting them.

But my guess is that 73 is near the top of the list.
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Post 2011-12-26 18:48   [Quote] 
syncopatico wrote:
The 'early years' the sound quality is probably too dodgy & primitive


Probably, but this is what I hope to hear the most. After all Joe's Domage didn't sound much better than what you described, does it? (Incidentally I love that release)

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Joe has mentioned a couple of possible releases from the 60's, a Whiskey A Go Go recording from 68, and a Hot Rats era club gig with studio player Ed Greene on drums. There is probably also good material left from the 69 tour recorded by Dick Kunc.


This is the era that fascinates me the most. I hope they will release some more studio outtakes. I know they do exist (think of the Chamber music pieces included on The Weasel Music acetate, for example)

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Post 2011-12-27 09:48   [Quote] 
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Appears as if i should have originally written (in my initial post): "Jeez, the edit that Joe Travers did to the guitar solo in Penguin In Bondage sure is noticeable." Embarassed


All edits during the guitar solo in penguin were made by FZ, the edit I had to make was in the solo after the story of the MOI.
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Post 2011-12-27 10:14   [Quote] 
Vaultmeister wrote:
syncopatico wrote:


Appears as if i should have originally written (in my initial post): "Jeez, the edit that Joe Travers did to the guitar solo in Penguin In Bondage sure is noticeable." Embarassed


All edits during the guitar solo in penguin were made by FZ, the edit I had to make was in the solo after the story of the MOI.
Thanks


The Vaultmeister graces us! Hello Joe! Took your photo right before the Q+A in Baltimore. (You were being hassled by security)

Sorry for the of-topicness of this but: Will we hear the contents of that tape with the words "Van Vliet Interview" crossed out? Or was that taped over or something?

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Post 2011-12-27 13:54   [Quote] 
Vaultmeister wrote:
syncopatico wrote:


Appears as if i should have originally written (in my initial post): "Jeez, the edit that Joe Travers did to the guitar solo in Penguin In Bondage sure is noticeable." Embarassed


All edits during the guitar solo in penguin were made by FZ, the edit I had to make was in the solo after the story of the MOI.
Thanks


Appears as if i should have originally written: "I wish Zappa would have left his guitar solo intact, and cut some of the boring story instead" Embarassed, but at least Joe Travers did a great job covering the reel edit seamlessly!" headbanger

(thanks for both{!} solos Joe!)
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Post 2011-12-28 01:01   [Quote] 
pbuzby wrote:


Joe has mentioned a couple of possible releases from the 60's, a Whiskey A Go Go recording from 68, and a Hot Rats era club gig with studio player Ed Greene on drums. There is probably also good material left from the 69 tour recorded by Dick Kunc. I agree releases from the more recent years might be redundant, but I have seen people mention wanting them.


Woah, the Hot Rats era one sounds cool, since the Olympic show is probably my favorite concert tape. I'd buy a release of something from that era.
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