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CB Lick My Decals Off, Baby Instrumentals - 1970 CD 34.56 (jazzfan)
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Post 2009-03-13 13:45   [Quote] 
Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band
Lick My Decals Off, Baby Instrumentals

Studio Sessions
Record Plant, Los Angeles
Early Fall 1970

Upgrade to http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11002
Far cleaner, truer to pitch and from the same source as the Spotlight Kid Outtakes (3rd Revision) stuff.
My source wants to stay anonymous, nevertheless thank you very much for sharing the goodies!

Tracklist:
01. Lick My Decals Off, Baby (2:41)
02. Doctor Dark (2:48)
03. I Love You, You Big Dummy (2:52)
04. Bellerin' Plain (3:29)
05. Woe-Is-Uh-Me-Bop (2:18)
06. Japan In A Dishpan (3:03)
07. I Wanna Find A Woman That'll Hold My Big Toe Till I Have To Go (2:10)
08. Petrified Forest (1:35)
09. The Buggy Boogie Woogie (2:24)
10. The Smithsonian Institute Blues (Or The Big Dig) (2:11)
11. Space-Age Couple (2:30)
12. The Clouds Are Full Of Wine (Not Whiskey Or Rye) (2:47)
13. Flash Gordon's Ape (4:08)

Lineage:
SBD 16-track tape->Henry Kaiser's tape->2nd gen tape->Fostex X-1 Portastudio->CDR-> FLAC Level 6

Total length: 34:56

Quality: 10/10

Line-Up:
Captain Beefheart/Don Van Vliet: vocals, tenor sax, soprano sax, bass clarinet, harmonica
Rockette Morton/Mark Boston: bass guitar, guitar
Drumbo/John French: drums, percussion, broom
Zoot Horn Rollo/Bill Harkleroad: guitar, slide 'glass finger' guitar
Ed Marimba/Art Tripp: marimba, drums, percussion, broom

Some Comments:
John French: The Decals session was at Record Plant. Despite the added pressure of having a gang of 'suits' standing around looking at their watches, we were done with the basics in less than a week, and then Don went into overdubs. Dick Kunc had been called in to engineer and stayed with Artie and me in Laurel Canyon. He was getting pressure from the business folks to hurry us along. He engineered all the instrumental tracks. However, a thoughtful suggestion on his part one evening put him immediately at enmity with Don, and he was fired. The assistant, Phil Schier, completed the engineer's role for the overdub and mixdown sessions.
(Grow Fins booklet)

Bill Harkleroad: As I remember it, the record was recorded over a 2-week period at the Record Plant in LA with Phil Schier as the engineer - who I think had worked previously with the Velvet Underground. I don't remember there being a lot of sessions, but definitely more than there had been for Trout Mask - there could hardly have been less!
(Bill Harkleroad: Lunar Notes)

Dave Lynch: The complete set of backing tracks remixed by Henry Kaiser to remove Beefheart's voice, harp, and sax.
Dave Lynch: In various stages of mixing, with bass and drums more prominent on some takes, and without the relentless sax skronking all over Flash Gordon's Ape, which makes this version far superior to the Decals version.

Michael H.: I think the point of it was to do a mix so that musicians could hear the parts better, and maybe try to learn them. I am very glad I have a copy of it now, because it is interesting to me, in the same way it is interesting to me to know that they played mostly Fender guitars. It was a behind-the-scenes thing that Kaiser allegedly did behind Don's back, without his permission.
Kaiser's opinions about Van Vliet seem, in my opinion, to go beyond a simple case of wanting to set the record straight. It strikes me as more of an obsession, and I think that he is a cult of one if he actually believes that the bands after Lick My Decals Off, Baby were not Magic. Anybody who believes such a thing must be deaf and simplistic, but in all fairness, I do not know if Kaiser actually did go so far as to say that. I found it strange that he would sneak in and re-mix Lick My Decals Off, Baby minus Van Vliet. I could see wanting to show how the instrumentals sounded as instrumentals, because a lot of brilliant playing is somewhat masked in the released mix by the vocals, but to also completely mute Don's harp and sax parts in those clandestine mixes suggests a personal vendetta of some kind, but it is difficult to know what it is. Given that Kaiser's guitar style is based on (mainly John French's) transcriptions of Van Vliet's ideas as adapted and played primarily by Bill Harkeroad, it can be safely said that Kaiser is riding Van Vliet's coat-tails, guitar-wise, because without Van Vliet, Trout Mask Replica and Lick My Decals Off, Baby would never have existed, and Kaiser would not have had the opportunity to build a career on mimicking that style. Why he is so bitter at Don is anyone's guess.
(Fire Party)

Robert Williams: I have been listening to a tape Zoogz sent me containing the backing tracks from Clear Spot and Lick My Decals Off, Baby. It's amazing! Don's vocals are so strong and take up so much sonic space on the records that it's difficult to hear all the incredible parts that the Magic Band were playing back then. Shit, those guys should be rich and famous for the parts they played. Instead they're just trying to get by. It's really sad when all those lame bands out there get to swim in money and the true American artists such as they are have to live a life bordering on poverty. Just imagine the amount of time it took for them to prepare that highly imaginative music.
(alt.fan.capt-beefheart)

Mike Barnes: There is an album's worth of vocal-less dubs and some weird mixes of the vocals and also the John Oswald Plunderphonics mix. I'm pretty sure this must have been something to do with Kaiser running off copies so he and others could hear the instrumentals some time in the late 70s/80s (?). Who from Warners would be interested in doing such a thing? Who else had access. He also covered some Decals stuff in his own music. The instrumental dub of the album sounds fantastic and sounds different production-wise, with everything generally boosted up. Flash Gordon's Ape sounds like a totally different track with all the saxes and voice removed.
(Fire Party)

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Post 2009-03-13 14:13   [Quote] 
Thanks very much for the upgrade. Very nice!

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Post 2009-03-13 14:23   [Quote] 
I just previewed (preheard?) the stuff, and it does sound very fine, indeed!

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Post 2009-03-13 14:24   [Quote] 
Extremely fast and bulbous, Sir.

Muchly thanking you !

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Post 2009-03-13 20:50   [Quote] 
Tanks a bunch !!
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Post 2009-03-13 20:59   [Quote] 
Thanks jf and mr. Anonymous! thumbsup

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Post 2009-03-13 21:05   [Quote] 
Thank you for the upgrade! Smile
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Post 2009-03-13 23:12   [Quote] 
Excellent I listen to this a lot, so having an upgrade (heck I though the previous version was terrific already) is even more terrific. A big thanks, especially to your secret source.
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Post 2009-03-13 23:52   [Quote] 
thank you!
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Post 2009-03-14 03:42   [Quote] 
wow an upgrade to one of favourites...and boy it does sound good...thank you
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Post 2009-03-14 12:05   [Quote] 
Thank you so much for these upgrades, of course I'm a fan of Don's voice, but it's so fantastic to be able to hear all the details in this intricate music, it's totally unbelievable. I'm a musician myself, and I think of all the work done by the Magic Band to organize and learn these incredible songs, it's amazing, a fantastic piece of ART, and this was recorded in 1970 !! These guys should be rich and praised after such a commitment into music, there really ain't no Santa Claus on the evenin' stage.
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Thanks for the upgrade.
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Post 2009-03-17 08:35   [Quote] 
Finally a version that doesn't sound crummy after the second song! Torrent of the year!
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thanks!
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Post 2009-03-30 05:41   [Quote] 
Man, I love the Captain's voice; but I really dig the band! Hoy Hoy!
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